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I don't think it was a stranger either. The whole property was walled. Kind of risky. There was a gated entrance as well iirc. I do remember a gate in the wall along the back lane as well....don't know if that was ever locked or not.

Didn't the neighbour hear someone ...voices of two men I think near Isabel's window? She woke up in the middle of the night, or wee hours to hear that, and went back to sleep?
Yes, there was something about hearing voices, but I can't remember the details. I need to go back and read from the beginning, sometimes the details of these poor missing children, get mixed up in my head....sad that there are so many are missing.....
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Does anyone here think her father killed her?
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I think the cousin or the other family member that was discussed awhile back. I think it might have been the uncle or something. I just remember the cousin drove a jeep and the uncle a pickup.

I don't think Isa's father killed her. (IMO)
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The neighbor being interviewed by Nancy Grace is at this link.


She says a couple of times about the Celis dogs were outside barking. The Celis family said two dogs were inside in cages (they had complaints about the dogs) with one old blind & deaf dog outside that morning. It's in an interview with Katie Couric.

TPD has commented on many of the Celis interviews and the interview with the PI. They say that the family and PI doesn't have the information that they have to be pointing the finger at the cousin/uncle.

http://www.kvoa.com/story/35061334/p...ds-in-the-case
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Does anyone here think her father killed her?
I never did.
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Does anyone here think her father killed her?
With very little facts, you just can't discount how TPD has responded to the family. New Chief though and waiting to see what is said now. You can't discount the cousin at all with no info, but the Find Me Private detectives group are psychics with the owner being a psychic detective supposedly. jmo
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The news keeps posting about Moore Security having video of Isabels bedroom window. There is a solid house in the way for that. The side roads & businesses yes. Not her window. Maybe their garage but still there's a two story solid house between them. Nancy Grace even spelled out M O O R E when interviewing the owner. Free advertisement, no money exchanged. Pictures maybe. Here's the interview.


here's a google map of the area. Moore security moved so they were in the strip mall where the Specialist store, Men's Warehouse etc...are located.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/5602...d32.221126!3e0

Next, the video of 5 people walking late at night in the area caught on security cameras was blasted all over the news, but in the end, the time stamp on the security camera it came from was incorrect, not time set. It was the church's video. The people were not involved in any way. It's not the cousin as I've seen mentioned elsewhere.

http://tucson.com/news/local/surveil...1ea99a0b3.html

Not the cousin in regards to the video of 5 people walking video. Wrong day/night.

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From what I have read her remains were found about 6 miles away from where Isa lived. So you are right, she wasn't found close to her home but miles away in a remote desert area.

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In the overall scheme of things, six miles isn't very far. It would take less than 10 minutes to get there. To me it indicates she was already dead when transported. Perps don't like to go any long distance with a dead body in their car, in case they are stopped.
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I'm really surprised there isn't more discussion about this considering how big the story was back in the day.

Maybe most people are sure that the cousin/nephew, I forget, who he was is the perp...?

I hope this beautiful girl gets the justice she deserves.
I think more will come to respond. I just found out today and came straight here. I saw it on a list of articles / video on CNN, under a political story. I think a lot of people don't know yet.

Poor Isabel deserves to live her life. I want Justice to be done for her, soon. RIP, sweet Angel.
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Does anyone here think her father killed her?
I did think it at the time . . . Or maybe the cousin. Now, I think, if the remains were found from a tip, then the perp must have told someone. Maybe a friend, lover, spouse, or priest (maybe), and that person has decided to tell LE. Of course, that's all speculation, but I don't think hèr father would have ever told a soul, if he did it. Also, there was some talk about her baseball team coach at the time, IIRC.
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Another thing I keep seeing stated elsewhere is that the Celis family PI Snyder of Find Me, in Chandler, AZ, is retired FBI. He's a retired Customs agent. Big difference. He claims he has psychic abilities and his group is mostly psychics. They do dousing & swing pendulums for answers. Many people came up with the cousin being a suspicious person long before Snyder did.

Both the cousin and the father are suspicious.

If someone came down the alley behind Isabel's house, hopped the back fence where they did find a shoe print I believe on a utility meter box, they could avoid many of those cameras. Going back down that alley with headlights out on a vehicle would also avoid being noticed. One home on their street does have a larger cleared area in the back of the house where the alley is. A vehicle could park off to the side there and not be seen. They could have taken her down that alley to S. Van Buren & through the neighborhood avoiding all the business security cameras on Broadway & Craycroft. js

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In the overall scheme of things, six miles isn't very far. It would take less than 10 minutes to get there. To me it indicates she was already dead when transported. Perps don't like to go any long distance with a dead body in their car, in case they are stopped.
I don't know where the six miles thing is coming from. They never said that. LE is being very tight-lipped about it and wouldn't have said that. Besides, there is nothing remote within 6 miles of their house...they live right smack in the middle of town.

And I wish the news reporters would quit saying "rural" instead of "remote". Remote is what the police chief said and is very different than rural. Remote goes along with the chief saying it wasn't happenstance that she was found...meaning it was BFE somewhere. They got a tip from someone. I feel like they have a good idea who it was but aren't going to bring a case until it's solid and I think they need more info.
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I don't know where the six miles thing is coming from. They never said that. LE is being very tight-lipped about it and wouldn't have said that. Besides, there is nothing remote within 6 miles of their house...they live right smack in the middle of town.

And I wish the news reporters would quit saying "rural" instead of "remote". Remote is what the police chief said and is very different than rural. Remote goes along with the chief saying it wasn't happenstance that she was found...meaning it was BFE somewhere. They got a tip from someone. I feel like they have a good idea who it was but aren't going to bring a case until it's solid and I think they need more info.
Upthread someone speculated six miles and someone else said six miles was too far away from home for a family member to have done it. I was replying to those presumptions.
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From what I have read her remains were found about 6 miles away from where Isa lived. So you are right, she wasn't found close to her home but miles away in a remote desert area.

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Where did you read she was found 6 miles from her home? Pima County had two sets of remains found from Feb. 1st to March 1st, iirc, per local news & google searches. One in Vail, AZ on the railroad tracks and one which is actually in Pinal Co., Red Rock, AZ. At least per MSM or LE, there hasn't been any other remains found. TIA
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I want to add, TPD doesn't want to release the location of where Isabels remains were found, last I heard.
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Too late now, the pyschic detective outed the location in his new videos. Avra Valley AZ. That's 34 miles/46 minutes from the Celis house. Another young teen girl was found in 2014, a quarter mile from where Isabel's remains were found. Maribel Gonzales. He's really pointing at JM but JM wasn't in Tucson when Maribel went missing. I don't believe the two are connected.

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/2...ound-in-desert

Link to PI's new videos. Part 1 & 2



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