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web cam girl... the anon donor...weird creepo "negotiator"... yea, that REALLY makes sense...
cut her own hair during a shoot to disguise herself in anything....

makes absolute sense..

to me.


She absolutely may have been "kidnapped" in her opinion... she was gonna do one scene for $ and was lead, or distracted then held against her will until so many scenes were shot.... by going public she nearly renders those videos un-useable in the porn business....





....IMHO, I can fathom that theory and thread, in many many ways.
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If you look up tribadism it will give you a clue. I looked it up and don't want to put the definition out on the board.
It's two women simulating heterosexual sex.
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I think out of all the odd circumstances surrounding this case, the one thing that just makes no sense at all is KP using the Find My Phone app instead of just calling her. That indicates to me there is a sort of suspicion /mistrust surrounding their relationship, more of a stalking type action. He wanted to know her whereabouts without letting her know he was looking for her. Was he expecting to locate her ...."catch her" in some compromising location where she shouldn't have been?
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OMG, this!
It's the only thing that makes sense!

If he really wanted to know if she was OK, he would have just called her. Using the findmyapp can only mean that he knew she was OK and was trying to catch her somewhere she wasn't supposed to be.
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I think out of all the odd circumstances surrounding this case, the one thing that just makes no sense at all is KP using the Find My Phone app instead of just calling her. That indicates to me there is a sort of suspicion /mistrust surrounding their relationship, more of a stalking type action. He wanted to know her whereabouts without letting her know he was looking for her. Was he expecting to locate her ...."catch her" in some compromising location where she shouldn't have been?

However, something else that folks find suspicious I think could have happened, and that is if she was taken at gunpoint, the abductors may have instructed her to place her phone on the ground with the headphones.....if you had a gun pointed at you, you would be doing that very slowly.

But, I also think it odd that KP took photos of the phone laying on,the ground. Why would he even think to do that?

Just some random thoughts in my head.......

Maybe he called and she didn't answer. Then he was worried so he used the app. People would question why he didn't use it if he hadn't. This is really a no win situation for the family. I can't imagine the pressure they're under. All of this attention for a crime in which they are the victim, according to the police. I'm positive the police have more information than us, and I don't get the willingness to just ignore what the police have said and further victimize the family. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.
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Maybe he called and she didn't answer. Then he was worried so he used the app. People would question why he didn't use it if he hadn't. This is really a no win situation for the family. I can't imagine the pressure they're under. All of this attention for a crime in which they are the victim, according to the police. I'm positive the police have more information than us, and I don't get the willingness to just ignore what the police have said and further victimize the family. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.
I did not know he tried to call her first. Did he?
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I did not know he tried to call her first. Did he?
I've read he was unable to locate her. To me that includes calling.
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From CC's tumblr link in post #1242 above http://sherripapini.tumblr.com/:

DOUBT: Why would he not call or text first?

Counter argument: Inconclusive. (1) Redding locals say that there is poor reception in the area and he may have been inclined to “ping” instead call. However, it is undecided as to whether without reception Find My iPhone app would work. (2) KP never says he didn’t call. Just because he doesn’t specifically say whether he called, doesn’t mean he didn’t call. Also 20/20 could’ve cut this part out of the interview, or Matt Gutman didn’t directly lead him to say it.


NEWEST DEVELOPMENT: Matt Gutman says KP texted and called before searching for her.

Many points/counterpoints made in the article, it's worth the read, IMO.
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is it porn he is talking about?
Yes, soft porn but the harder core is w/ spouse.
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Is LE still investigating this, anyone know? I haven't seen anything from them lately, just others who are appearing to try to keep her in the spotlight.
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"...The sheriff’s information blackout extends to some public records. The Sheriff’s Office and other law enforcement agencies have denied The Bee’s requests, filed under the California Public Records Act, for 911 tapes from Thanksgiving morning, and incident reports involving any other encounters Papini might have had with law enforcement over the years.

California’s public records law gives law enforcement officials discretion to withhold such records if they can justify that their release would harm an investigation.

Court records that might shed light on the case also remain under seal. In mid-November, before Papini was found, Shasta County detectives said they had traveled out of state and authored close to 20 search warrants in the case. Bosenko has said his office won’t unseal the warrants while the investigation is pending.

Detectives have not said how many warrants have been filed, in what counties they were issued or how many hours detectives have spent on the case.

The Sheriff’s Office did provide expense reports for out-of-state travel in the case. Based on receipts, two detectives traveled to Detroit and its suburbs of New Hudson, Northville, Plymouth and Canton between Nov. 9 and Nov. 11. ...

...Asked last week whether he expected a resolution anytime soon, Bosenko said it was impossible to say.

“You never know on these cases,” Bosenko said. “Tomorrow, there could be a major break in the case. You just don’t know.”"

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article129718969.html#storylink=cpy"
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I have never known what to make of this case. If not for all the media attention and social media I think I would have thought her a very lucky lady to have been abducted and then returned to her family.

I find it hard to believe that after all this time Sherri still seems to be the 'topic of conversation' on a lot of boards.

IF she is a victim how terrible for her.

I don't have any idea after lots of reading. In my mind the jury is still out on this one but I'm going to give her the benefit of doubt until Le says otherwise.
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"...The sheriff’s information blackout extends to some public records. The Sheriff’s Office and other law enforcement agencies have denied The Bee’s requests, filed under the California Public Records Act, for 911 tapes from Thanksgiving morning, and incident reports involving any other encounters Papini might have had with law enforcement over the years.

California’s public records law gives law enforcement officials discretion to withhold such records if they can justify that their release would harm an investigation.

Court records that might shed light on the case also remain under seal. In mid-November, before Papini was found, Shasta County detectives said they had traveled out of state and authored close to 20 search warrants in the case. Bosenko has said his office won’t unseal the warrants while the investigation is pending.

Detectives have not said how many warrants have been filed, in what counties they were issued or how many hours detectives have spent on the case.

The Sheriff’s Office did provide expense reports for out-of-state travel in the case. Based on receipts, two detectives traveled to Detroit and its suburbs of New Hudson, Northville, Plymouth and Canton between Nov. 9 and Nov. 11. ...

...Asked last week whether he expected a resolution anytime soon, Bosenko said it was impossible to say.

“You never know on these cases,” Bosenko said. “Tomorrow, there could be a major break in the case. You just don’t know.”"

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article129718969.html#storylink=cpy"
Thanks. I think the investigation is about criminal fraud. iirc, they raised quite a bit of money on gofundme. If she wasn't really kidnapped, then they are going after both her and her husband for lying about it. It would involve an intensive forensic investigation of their financials, internet and telephone records.

It's no different than someone who raises a lot of money by falsely claiming they have cancer.
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The only way I believe Sherri could be an innocent kidnap victim is if her husband was behind it all. I mean with the planting of the head phones that were neatly laid and by telling the kids their mom would be home by thanksgiving. Then of course we have the hostage dim whit getting involved.

Plus' kidnappers don't usually let there victims go alive. Unless they were paid to do a job for a short period of time.

I still can't wrap my head around this ever being a true kidnapping. Like I said' I could see where Sherri's husband was behind it all and set it up.

Anyone know if Keith is back at work yet? Oh I forgot!! They got all that money from the go fund me account.
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http://fox40.com/2017/02/05/fox40-sp...sherri-papini/

Further self-serving interview and publicity for "hostage negotiator" in Part 2. I have been hesitant to post my true opinion about this case for quite sometime, because I was ruthless and mocking in the case of poor Denise Huskins, which I thought was a hoax but turned out to be real, but enough time has passed and the circumstances and evidence here have me 99% convinced that this "kidnapping" is a complete hoax. The only things I'm not sure about are:

1. Whether her husband was in on it/knew about it (I lean towards no at first but after she came back yes)

2. Whether the negotiator was part of the plan or conveniently took advantage of the circumstances for his own gain (I lean towards yes, he was part of it from the beginning, he and Sherri did this all together)

3. Motives: Attention, money, publicity for Gamble, or all of the above? I lean towards all of the above.

I think LE has been completely radio silent on this because they don't buy it either, but are afraid of coming out and saying it was a hoax just in case it isn't and getting sued. But to me, reading between the lines of what they have said all along the way, they aren't buying it either.
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That Vallejo case took a long time to sort out, too! I am still going to wait, because wow, weird stuff, it turns out, can happen. Wile E. Coyote can, indeed, stage a kidnaping!
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Truth finally sliding out? Now we're getting somewhere. Sherri self harming & blaming others. Stealing. Coming from none other than her family members. I'm convinced for sure now that she is behind her own kidnapping. Wanting sympathy & cash is what this is all about.
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YEAH! TY Lavander for being here! lol I was watching and reading this morning and I was so GLAD to be validated, whew.

Liar Liar pantsonfire

https://www.yahoo.com/news/investiga...111008233.html
.......her own family are reportedly raising concerns to investigators about the authenticity of the story.

The publication reports that Shasta County detectives, who are looking into the case, have realised that 13 years prior to the mysterious events surrounding Sherri's abduction, Sherri's own mother contacted police about her daughter.

...The Sacramento Bee claims it has seen an incident report matching up to these claims, dated December 2003, but notes that the report fails to clarify whether the police found evidence that it was true, and she had harmed herself.

Sherri's dad Richard Graeff, accused his daughter of having stolen from his home in the year 2000. Three years later, according to Graeff, she allegedly made unauthorised withdrawals from his bank account.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/mother-supe...ry?id=46477176


I see how Sherri became so pompous, and how it appears to me that the police gave her priviledges that most of us would never get.,,,, I see why Sherri thinks police are dumb as rocks...

A 911 call log from 2003 recently released by California police reveal that the mother of Sherri Papini, the 34-year-old woman who went missing for three weeks in November after she claimed she was kidnapped while jogging, told police that her daughter was "harming herself and blaming it on [her.]"

A call log from the Shasta County Sheriff's Office dated Dec. 17, 2003, indicates that Papini's mother, Loretta Graeff, alleged that her then-21-year-old daughter had been harming herself and blaming it on her. The log, obtained by The Sacramento Bee and shared with ABC News, also states that Loretta Graeff wanted "advice" because her daughter was planning on moving back in with her.

The report, only two sentences long, does not detail whether police found evidence that Papini, in fact, harmed herself.

The log also contained multiple allegations from Papini's other family members. On Oct. 1, 2000, Papini's sister, Sheila Graeff, alleged that Sherri may have kicked in her back door but was unsure if anyone actually got into the house because nothing was missing.

Then later that day, Papini's father, Richard Graeff, alleged that Papini vandalized their home in Shasta Lake, California. Three years later, On October 3, 2003, Richard Graeff also alleged to police that an unauthorized withdrawal was made from his bank account and that he suspected Papini, who was living with them at the time. But a subsequent police report stated that the money was returned to his account, and Sherri was opening a credit card account.

The Sacramento Bee first reported the story Thursday morning.

There were no investigations or charges against Papini in relation to the log.....
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