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02-22-2012, 02:42 AM
Justice for Michelle!

http://www.wral.com/news/video/10690077/#/vid10690077

http://www.wtvd.com/

full coverage - http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/

pegleg
02-22-2012, 07:22 AM
Thanks, close!

:liar: --------> :bbars:


:wave: Hi, Questers! Here's to a good dayhttp://www.justicequest.net/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif for Michelle!!




:justice:

Shea
02-22-2012, 07:38 AM
Hoping that Holt and Spivey can dismantle Jason's testimony, lie by lie by lie.

JennaCee
02-22-2012, 09:07 AM
Hoping that Holt and Spivey can dismantle Jason's testimony, lie by lie by lie.

:wub: you said it!..
I really really want this Jury to get it. I want them to realize what JY did WAS possible to pull off. He was not as slick as he thought he was. I sure hope they can spot a very rehearsed bullshitter salesman.

Talina
02-22-2012, 09:08 AM
Good morning everyone. Thanks for such good note taking yesterday! I missed almost the entire day and had to catch up by reading last night and this morning.

I see some saying that Spivey is the last prosecution witness. That is surprising to me since it seems like some evidence has not yet been introduced but I could be wrong.

I find it confusing to try to separate what is discussed that was presented this trial versus last trial. That along with my stuffed up head is making me have a head ache already this morning. ugghh

Here's hoping for a good day in court today. :)

Sun.
02-22-2012, 09:15 AM
:wave: Good morning everyone! I'm hearing this testimony for the first time, and it's sort of seeming a bit odd, since it's being offered in the State's case. I know I have to wait to see what the State is up to here, and I expect they will be trying to show that Jason lied in his testimony.

jomomma
02-22-2012, 09:17 AM
anybody have any idea on the timing left in the trial? i know we don't know for sure but was there anything said in the beginning how long they thought it would last? i'm just curious :)

i'm wondering just how much the DT has...

i would love to be home/take the day off for closing arguments LOL

ETA: good morning all! :wave:

SondraK
02-22-2012, 09:22 AM
:wave: Good morning everyone! I'm hearing this testimony for the first time, and it's sort of seeming a bit odd, since it's being offered in the State's case. I know I have to wait to see what the State is up to here, and I expect they will be trying to show that Jason lied in his testimony.
:wave:
I find this to be kind of confusing at this point too. Hoping it will become clearer as the day goes on. Regardless, I can't buy all the coincidences being just that. The camera messed with timing, his "blocking" of doors, the gas usage, etc. All points to guilty in my book.

imawitch
02-22-2012, 09:23 AM
Hi everybody:wave:
I know you dont see me much here, but I do read, and thanks to each of you, im able to follow along..

thank you for keeping me in the loop

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 09:28 AM
Thanks for today's thread! Good morning all!

Another day closer to justice!

Bring it on!

IMO,
Lilismom

Tadpole
02-22-2012, 09:31 AM
:wave: Good morning everyone! I'm hearing this testimony for the first time, and it's sort of seeming a bit odd, since it's being offered in the State's case. I know I have to wait to see what the State is up to here, and I expect they will be trying to show that Jason lied in his testimony.

I'm with you. They have set it up to have a gotcha moment. The jury will be disappointed if there isn't one.

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 09:35 AM
Morning Peeps! :wave:

I listened to the rest of his testimony last night and be prepared to get pissed off! :dnaughty:

JennaCee
02-22-2012, 09:36 AM
I'm with you. They have set it up to have a gotcha moment. The jury will be disappointed if there isn't one.

So true.
To me, It's almost a must.

Scampi
02-22-2012, 09:38 AM
Good morning everybody, thanks Close!

kate482000
02-22-2012, 09:40 AM
Good Morning all......ready, set, go......

kate482000
02-22-2012, 09:41 AM
Sound is very low....UGH

jomomma
02-22-2012, 09:42 AM
Morning Peeps! :wave:

I listened to the rest of his testimony last night and be prepared to get pissed off! :dnaughty:

i probly should've done that last night as i can't listen right now. i was too tired to sit up anymore tho dang it!

kate482000
02-22-2012, 09:42 AM
:doh: It's me...sound is fine....

jammies
02-22-2012, 09:44 AM
:doh: It's me...sound is fine....

No, I thought the same. They turned it up!!

Smash Badger
02-22-2012, 09:45 AM
No salesman leaves without getting a name. Or they're really a poor salesman.

SondraK
02-22-2012, 09:45 AM
Since when is "home" your mom's house, not your own?

GeauxldnGurl
02-22-2012, 09:46 AM
How did eight people fall for this crap? And I've noticed he called his Ma's house home several times.

*LissaS*
02-22-2012, 09:46 AM
Good morning everyone!! Ready for justice today.

Scampi
02-22-2012, 09:47 AM
You'd think any husband who didn't believe his wife was dead, would rush to the scene as soon as possible.

He is such an unbelievable liar.

whatever
02-22-2012, 09:48 AM
:Lalalalal: I cant listen to the fake cry!!!!

JennaCee
02-22-2012, 09:48 AM
The daycare worker had more genuine emotion then this fool..ughhh

*LissaS*
02-22-2012, 09:48 AM
Anyone going to the trial tomorrow? I'm gonna try.

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 09:49 AM
Since when is "home" your mom's house, not your own?

I caught that yesterday as well. In his mind he never left, never grew up, tied to his mom's apron strings.

You know, I'm wondering if Jason really hates his mom, and that's why he disrespects and treats women so badly.

kate482000
02-22-2012, 09:51 AM
How did eight people fall for this crap? And I've noticed he called his Ma's house home several times.

I keep asking myself the same question over and over....:confused:

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 09:51 AM
He say "Mom" instead of My Mother...when I talk to people about my mother, I say "My Mother," for family and friends I say "Mom" as it's more intimate. He has the arrested development of a 12 year old, I'm surprised he doesn't say "my Mommy".....:scared:

OK, my mean is on......

Swabby
02-22-2012, 09:51 AM
He wanted to find out SO bad how Cassidy was, that he stopped at Applebees for dinner.

Simba
02-22-2012, 09:53 AM
You'd think any husband who didn't believe his wife was dead, would rush to the scene as soon as possible.

He is such an unbelievable liar.

Yet alone stop on the way to get food. I certainly wouldn't have an appetite.

Good Morning All :wave:

Simba
02-22-2012, 09:53 AM
Don't talk to family or friends because if they kept shut they would be an accessory after the fact.

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 09:54 AM
Anyone going to the trial tomorrow? I'm gonna try.


Awesome :wave: Please slap Jason upside his humongous block head for me! :D

jammies
02-22-2012, 09:54 AM
He wanted to find out SO bad how Cassidy was, that he stopped at Applebees for dinner.


Who among them could EAT? Blows my mind.

Scampi
02-22-2012, 09:54 AM
He say "Mom" instead of My Mother...when I talk to people about my mother, I say "My Mother," for family and friends I say "Mom" as it's more intimate. He has the arrested development of a 12 year old, I'm surprised he doesn't say "my Mommy".....:scared:

OK, my mean is on......

You look marvelous in it too. :dance:

Palomine
02-22-2012, 09:54 AM
anybody have any idea on the timing left in the trial? i know we don't know for sure but was there anything said in the beginning how long they thought it would last? i'm just curious :)

i'm wondering just how much the DT has...

i would love to be home/take the day off for closing arguments LOL

ETA: good morning all! :wave:

5-6 weeks

Tadpole
02-22-2012, 09:54 AM
You want fake crying? Wait till he testifies that he touched MY's belly to say bye to RY. He buries his head in apparent heavy grief. Then DT asks if he can continue and he pops his head up and plainly says 'yes' in a completely normal way. Wait for it.

jomomma
02-22-2012, 09:57 AM
5-6 weeks

thank you

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 09:57 AM
He wanted to find out SO bad how Cassidy was, that he stopped at Applebees for dinner.

Never asks about Michelle...ever....not once...how sad for her family that they have to endure knowing how cruel and uncaring he has always been toward their beloved daughter in life and in death ( he even put daisies on her casket...another FU to Michelle and her family IMO )

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 09:58 AM
You want fake crying? Wait till he testifies that he touched MY's belly to say bye to RY. He buries his head in apparent heavy grief. Then DT asks if he can continue and he pops his head up and plainly says 'yes' in a completely normal way. Wait for it.

OMG yes! :wave: Makes my skin crawl when he does that routine!

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 09:58 AM
You want fake crying? Wait till he testifies that he touched MY's belly to say bye to RY. He buries his head in apparent heavy grief. Then DT asks if he can continue and he pops his head up and plainly says 'yes' in a completely normal way. Wait for it.

OMG! I can just imagine. This killer loved his Hush Puppies more than his children.

Talina
02-22-2012, 09:58 AM
Okay, I missed yesterday trial and this is the first I've seen of his prior testimony.

This guy gives way too much explanation in his answers.

His demeanor is very off putting to me as well and I just can't quite put my finger on what it is though.

Simba
02-22-2012, 09:59 AM
He's getting his whole testimony from what all the witnesses testified to. I would bet money he didn't know they were "cheap" until it was testified to that they were the "cheaper made ones).

I would like to hear from somebody who saw him with these shoes on before the murder and ask them if they looked "worn".

I would also like to know just "when" these HP were given to GW, he just stated how he loved those shoes because they were comfortable, why didn't he go right out and buy another pair, why did he wait to buy another pair the day he went in for his police interview?

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 10:00 AM
You look marvelous in it too. :dance:

Thank you! :wub:

:laugh:

Gurlmom
02-22-2012, 10:01 AM
Roses on the floor......WTF

kate482000
02-22-2012, 10:02 AM
:dQueen: He's making me sick....sooo phony.....

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:02 AM
Like the explanation as to why he picked the daisies for her funeral :puke:

Palomine
02-22-2012, 10:02 AM
biggest mistake of Jason's life..talking..he would have gotten away with murder if he hadn't taken the stand

gorealtors
02-22-2012, 10:02 AM
Here come the fake waterworks!!! BARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

whatever
02-22-2012, 10:02 AM
I bet Michelle wanted to reach up from that casket and strangle that jackazz!!!!!!:mob:

jammies
02-22-2012, 10:03 AM
Covers his face to hide the lack of tears.

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:04 AM
What a F*cking Liar! That's something you would KEEP as a remembrance not put it in the casket.

I hope the jury can see right through this total BS!

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 10:04 AM
Daisies REALLY? This totally pisses me off!! You leave a daisy wreath on your wives casket? Not roses or lillies? Cheap bastard! It was another nose thumb at Michelle and her family.

I hope Linda took that fucking "bushel and a peck, a hug around the neck" paper out of her casket, especially since he did try to strangle her..

Here's the fake break down

What a cad....

Palomine
02-22-2012, 10:04 AM
cool no tears...

Talina
02-22-2012, 10:04 AM
Wow...he sure perks back up quick after his tears.

jammies
02-22-2012, 10:04 AM
Wow. Sobbing one second, perfectly fine the next.

gorealtors
02-22-2012, 10:05 AM
What a split second recovery from your crying, you faking SOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:05 AM
He was too afraid Cassidy would say something in front of all those people, that's why he kept her away.

Bex
02-22-2012, 10:05 AM
LOL.. He was fake crying.. Atty asked, "do you want continue" (or whatever)... and Jason says "No, sir.."... fake crying stops immediately..

Wow he didn't even try to keep that going for a few second - to make it seem authentic.

Palomine
02-22-2012, 10:05 AM
notice he doesn't remember anything..except when he says "It was testified to"

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 10:05 AM
That's some chin he has.

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 10:06 AM
I bet Michelle wanted to reach up from that casket and strangle that jackazz!!!!!!:mob:

I bet it took Linda and Meredith every ounce of disciple not to want to kick his ass over and over again...he's disgusting!

kate482000
02-22-2012, 10:06 AM
My DH knows nothing about this trial, he can hear it from the other room and he says "this guy is hanging himself"....unfortunately the jury didn't agree....

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:07 AM
Like he really gave a shit about having shoes that went from dress to casual, he could have gone in sneakers. Does everybody remember what he had on, he looked like a freakin rag picker. If he took the time to go buy shoes, why didn't he take the time to go buy some new pants and shoes that fit!

Palomine
02-22-2012, 10:07 AM
www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/video/10762864/#/vid10762864

Amanda Lamb recap of Day 12

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:07 AM
Shoot, I missed who this trip was for, who did he say?

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:08 AM
notice he doesn't remember anything..except when he says "It was testified to"

EXACTLY! And then he spins it all.

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 10:08 AM
I caught that yesterday as well. In his mind he never left, never grew up, tied to his mom's apron strings.

You know, I'm wondering if Jason really hates his mom, and that's why he disrespects and treats women so badly.

Well, he's got $900,000 reasons to love her now.

IMO,
Lilismom

Palomine
02-22-2012, 10:09 AM
http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/specialreports/michelleyoung/2012/02/17/10748684/palmatier1-640x480.jpg
Ashley Palmatier a day care worker who had 2-year-old Cassidy Young in her class, testifies Feb. 17, 2012, that Cassidy Young, playing with two dolls several days after her mother was found dead, acted out her mother being beaten. Cassidy Young was found unharmed inside her home when her mother was found dead in a bedroom. (Photo by Robert Willett, The News & Observer, Pool)

Thrace
02-22-2012, 10:10 AM
everything's a surprise with this guy. that's his second most used word after drama/dramatic.

Scampi
02-22-2012, 10:11 AM
I bet it took Linda and Meredith every ounce of disciple not to want to kick his ass over and over again...he's disgusting!

I cannot imagine their stress over the many disgusting things he has done, and admire their restraint.

I so hope this jury gives them the justice they so richly deserve.

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:11 AM
Who was the trip for that he just testified to because it was around Valentine's Day and their birthday?

Palomine
02-22-2012, 10:11 AM
http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/specialreports/michelleyoung/2011/06/14/9727587/187283-OKcrimesceneState_Exhibit_1-1-640x426.jpg

No Daisy in sight!

Palomine
02-22-2012, 10:12 AM
http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/specialreports/michelleyoung/2011/06/14/9727602/187290-OKcrimesceneState_Exhibit_1-7-640x426.jpg

Not one daisy on property

Talina
02-22-2012, 10:13 AM
What a load of BS that the reason he agreed to the custody agreement was due to money. All he had to do was agree to the visitation arrangement the Fisher's were requesting and he well knew it.

I hope the people on the jury see through that explanation.

What nonsense.

IMO

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:13 AM
http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/specialreports/michelleyoung/2011/06/14/9727587/187283-OKcrimesceneState_Exhibit_1-1-640x426.jpg

No Daisy in sight!

Hope they show the jury that picture again!

paige1
02-22-2012, 10:13 AM
he is disgusting. so is his lawyer.

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 10:13 AM
I cannot imagine their stress over the many disgusting things he has done, and admire their restraint.

I so hope this jury gives them the justice they so richly deserve.

As do I...they deserve nothing less this time.

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 10:14 AM
Who was the trip for that he just testified to because it was around Valentine's Day and their birthday?
Michelle

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:14 AM
Awww poor guy, what's the matter, people didn't think of you as the life of the party anymore!

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:15 AM
Michelle

Thanks. Forgot to ask who did he take with this trip again?

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 10:16 AM
http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/specialreports/michelleyoung/2011/06/14/9727587/187283-OKcrimesceneState_Exhibit_1-1-640x426.jpg

No Daisy in sight!

WOW! That is so telling! PY also testified planting daisies with Michelle on that property...:scared:

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:16 AM
Break already????

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 10:16 AM
Thanks. Forgot to ask who did he take with this trip again?
I am not sure but I think just Michelle and Cassidy

kate482000
02-22-2012, 10:17 AM
What's going on? Did they take a break?

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:17 AM
I'm not a flower person, would daisies be up or blooming in November? And are they flowers that come up on their own every year or need to be replanted?

Thrace
02-22-2012, 10:17 AM
Thanks. Forgot to ask who did he take with this trip again?

His mom and Cassidy - after Michelle died.

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:18 AM
I am not sure but I think just Michelle and Cassidy

I thought this trip they were talking about was AFTER Michelle was murdered.

whatever
02-22-2012, 10:19 AM
http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/specialreports/michelleyoung/2011/06/14/9727602/187290-OKcrimesceneState_Exhibit_1-7-640x426.jpg

Not one daisy on property

Only weeds and "dead flowers" :sad: speaks volumes!!!!

JennaCee
02-22-2012, 10:20 AM
So sad he was impacted by her death by the loss of friends...Jobs.. Not once did he say he lost the love of his life a child he will never see..& the loss of Cassidy.
Priorities..gotta love his-
Man..he hated Michelle.

Talina
02-22-2012, 10:20 AM
I'm not a flower person, would daisies be up or blooming in November? And are they flowers that come up on their own every year or need to be replanted?

Some do and some don't. Different kinds of daisies from what I just read about them.

Some have a bloom period of about 8 weeks, some are perennial, some can stay blooming practically year round. I'm sure climate would have something to do with that as well but didn't read up that much on them.

I guess we'd have to know what type of daisies they planted to know if they should appear in these photos.

IMO

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 10:20 AM
I hope the jury takes note that he *lost everything, friends, job*, but never mentions his greater losses which happen to be Michelle and his unborn son.

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:20 AM
His mom and Cassidy - after Michelle died.

Thanks, I thought it was after Michelle's death. What a POS and asshole, you take a trip with momma to celebrate the death of your wife and VALENTINE'S DAY!

gorealtors
02-22-2012, 10:21 AM
Those do appear to be gerber daisies planted around the mailbox.

Gurlmom
02-22-2012, 10:21 AM
I'm not a flower person, would daisies be up or blooming in November? And are they flowers that come up on their own every year or need to be replanted?

I think Gerbera daisies bloom in the early summer and are annuals, at least the ones I put in my yard a few years back. Neighbor's dog killed them by peeing on them :doh:

Thrace
02-22-2012, 10:22 AM
Thanks, I thought it was after Michelle's death. What a POS and asshole, you take a trip with momma to celebrate the death of your wife and VALENTINE'S DAY!

He and mom did alot of traveling together after Michelle died. Have you ever seen the pic of them in matching snow suits?

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 10:22 AM
I thought this trip they were talking about was AFTER Michelle was murdered.
I'm sorry....they talked about both. The trip after Michelle was killed was with his mom and Cassidy

JennaCee
02-22-2012, 10:22 AM
I hope the jury takes note that he *lost everything, friends, job*, but never mentions his greater losses which happen to be Michelle and his unborn son.

Same thoughts.:dance:

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 10:23 AM
He and mom did alot of traveling together after Michelle died. Have you ever seen the pic of them in matching snow suits?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! OMG!

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:23 AM
He and mom did alot of traveling together after Michelle died. Have you ever seen the pic of them in matching snow suits?

OMG, NO!

lingling100
02-22-2012, 10:24 AM
My theory on the reason for the daisies on her casket: It was his way of saying "now you're pushing up daisies, you bitch!"

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 10:25 AM
He and mom did alot of traveling together after Michelle died. Have you ever seen the pic of them in matching snow suits?

Oh brother, imo, there's something skanky about this mother/son relationship.

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:25 AM
Julie Tindel? I missed her. Did she testify in this trial?

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:26 AM
My theory on the reason for the daisies on her casket: It was his way of saying "now you're pushing up daisies, you bitch!"

Good thought!

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 10:26 AM
I'm not a flower person, would daisies be up or blooming in November? And are they flowers that come up on their own every year or need to be replanted?

Summer bloomers and yes come back each year...they can actually grow in the wild as well if the seeds get blown somewhere.

jomomma
02-22-2012, 10:26 AM
the daisies i've grown are perenials and bloom multiple times thru the summer/fall but i'm up in ohio. they do spread!!

paige1
02-22-2012, 10:26 AM
where is julie tendil(sp?). surely she would have something to offer!

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 10:27 AM
Another sexual relationship with a Julie Something. I wonder if this azzhat practised safe sex .

CatToy
02-22-2012, 10:27 AM
Julie Tindel? I missed her. Did she testify in this trial?

I agree wtf; who the hell is she and where is she? Bring her on.

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 10:27 AM
Somebody should have beat his ugly ass, greasy haired, horn dog, lying, cheating ass!!!

jomomma
02-22-2012, 10:28 AM
My theory on the reason for the daisies on her casket: It was his way of saying "now you're pushing up daisies, you bitch!"

yup!

CatToy
02-22-2012, 10:28 AM
the daisies i've grown are perenials and bloom multiple times thru the summer/fall but i'm up in ohio. they do spread!!

They are annuals for me; near VA....I wish Mine would seed and spread. I have to replace them each year just because I love them.

whatever
02-22-2012, 10:28 AM
Another sexual relationship with a Julie Something. I wonder if this azzhat practised safe sex .

I was thinking the otherday if perhaps he had more children somewhere!!!! Hes such a jackass!!!!!

JennaCee
02-22-2012, 10:28 AM
:popcorn2::liar:

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 10:29 AM
Some do and some don't. Different kinds of daisies from what I just read about them.

Some have a bloom period of about 8 weeks, some are perennial, some can stay blooming practically year round. I'm sure climate would have something to do with that as well but didn't read up that much on them.

I guess we'd have to know what type of daisies they planted to know if they should appear in these photos.

IMO

PY said Shasta daisies. JY said these were colorful daisies...( really? Not even pure white ones? wow)

CatToy
02-22-2012, 10:29 AM
Another sexual relationship with a Julie Something. I wonder if this azzhat practised safe sex .

He almost started to justify that as well; and lied at first on the stand; he skirted the answer and in a flash we all just saw the real JY....little prick that he is.

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 10:30 AM
I hope the jury takes note that he *lost everything, friends, job*, but never mentions his greater losses which happen to be Michelle and his unborn son.

I sure did!

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:31 AM
Did I read on here that JY and Mr Fisher had a good relationship? And I got the impression that Mr. Fisher knew a lot that was going on. Maybe he didn't but I can guarantee you that if my husband knew about all his philandering and verbal abuse, my husband would jack his ass up in a minute!

Gurlmom
02-22-2012, 10:31 AM
Have we heard why he was shocked? Was Michelle on BC pills? Do we know?

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 10:31 AM
My theory on the reason for the daisies on her casket: It was his way of saying "now you're pushing up daisies, you bitch!"

Oh! Yes, it feels like an FU to Michelle to me.

paige1
02-22-2012, 10:32 AM
Becky Holt needs to come after Jason hard if she gets the opportunity again. fire question after question to get him mad.

Palomine
02-22-2012, 10:32 AM
he is disgusting. so is his lawyer.

he has really good lawyers, you can't fault a defense lawyer for doing his job...unless he resorts to sleazy tactics...which these lawyers have not

whatever
02-22-2012, 10:32 AM
He just doesnt seem the type to wear a condom!!! :D

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 10:33 AM
The pros sounds uttely annoyed with Jason...LOL She isn't hiding it either...:laugh:

CatToy
02-22-2012, 10:33 AM
20 minutes a chair and a room; that's all I need. If this jury allows this prick to walk again; we will all be in such an uproar; all I can think of is Michelle and that video of her and her little baby daughter; laughing and cracking up.....

And he deserves the very worst in life. The very worst. He is just as bad if not worse, than Scott Peterson and I wish ppl would get that. Esp the weird TH's on IS.

Gurlmom
02-22-2012, 10:33 AM
Did I read on here that JY and Mr Fisher had a good relationship? And I got the impression that Mr. Fisher knew a lot that was going on. Maybe he didn't but I can guarantee you that if my husband knew about all his philandering and verbal abuse, my husband would jack his ass up in a minute!

If someone did that to one of my girls I'd be in the defendant's chair and the abuser would be six feet under!

SondraK
02-22-2012, 10:33 AM
QUESTION: Why does his hair look so dark in these videos? He looked fairly sandy haired in others.

pegleg
02-22-2012, 10:34 AM
Morning Peeps! :wave:

I listened to the rest of his testimony last night and be prepared to get pissed off! :dnaughty:

Hi back to LadyB!:wave:

I'm THERE already, Blue!! Oh, so greasy-sounding -- and the jury bought it, lock, stock & barrel of chit!! (except for the 4)

BTW -- JY mentions an atty for the custody, etc., -- Alice Stubbs, with Tharrington, Smith -- she is probably the BEST attorney in (at least) the Raleigh area for "Family Law" such as child custody, divorce, divorce property rights, etc., etc. Sharp, smart -- all of it. Whew, I wish she could cross-examine this b****** -- altho in this case, she probably couldn't due to her prior (when JY could afford it -- she ain't cheap by a long shot) relations with the slayer. And how come he/they had the dollars for her, but not for his criminal defense??? Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

Back to it.

Rock him, sock him, knock is azz in the dirt!!!
:fish::croc::bkick::xsmash::wife::wt:


And it JY smacks his lips one more time, I'm gonna scream & wake up the dog!!!

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 10:34 AM
He just doesnt seem the type to wear a condom!!! :D

I agree, that's why I posed the question. I can't see him carrying one around in his wallet.

CatToy
02-22-2012, 10:35 AM
:popcorn2::liar:

I agree; the significance of showing his prev testimony is huge; yesterday I was the same :popcorn2: :liar:

JennaCee
02-22-2012, 10:35 AM
Yep..he hated Family around. Pretty clear to me why.

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:35 AM
Between all his business trips, and all his football games and getting together with his friends how the how much time was HE at the house. Seems to me he left Michelle home alone an awful lot.

whatever
02-22-2012, 10:35 AM
QUESTION: Why does his hair look so dark in these videos? He looked fairly sandy haired in others.

I think because he was in jail. not a lot of light. My boys all are sandy haired and in summer is alot lighter than winter.

jusdafacts
02-22-2012, 10:35 AM
I agree, that's why I posed the question. I can't see him carrying one around in his wallet.

No, he kept them in his suitcase, for his "business" trips.

Bex
02-22-2012, 10:36 AM
I really hope he takes the stand, but I wonder if he won't do it - simply because this testimony is being replayed and he gets his "side" of the story out without having to go through cross-examination again.

I am sure Holt has thought up a lot more questions to corner Jason in.. And I am sure the defense knows that.. So this videotape might do the "job"... getting his side out w/o risking going through cross-exam once more.

CatToy
02-22-2012, 10:37 AM
I agree, that's why I posed the question. I can't see him carrying one around in his wallet.

CT suffers a chill and cringes.

He is skanky and most of the women he was with were totally out of his league. He is such a loser! (I still believe he is gay too) H e may have shagged lot of women; but he also looked up gay bars in NY.

He's bi. And he is skeery skeevy skanky.

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:37 AM
I agree, that's why I posed the question. I can't see him carrying one around in his wallet.

They did find them in his luggage didn't they?

whatever
02-22-2012, 10:37 AM
No, he kept them in his suitcase, for his "business" trips.

For the ladies he met at the cracker barrels!!!! :laugh:

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 10:38 AM
he has really good lawyers, you can't fault a defense lawyer for doing his job...unless he resorts to sleazy tactics...which these lawyers have not

This trial is not the dog and pont show the Anthony trial was...this one is so much more professional. His defense are great! We were discussing last night how we feel that Klink ( is that his name?) really can't stand Jason.

CatToy
02-22-2012, 10:38 AM
I think because he was in jail. not a lot of light. My boys all are sandy haired and in summer is alot lighter than winter.

Yep same with my child. IN the winters here; we go ashen and dark. hehe.

In Hawaii we turned blonde as can be. :wub:

CatToy
02-22-2012, 10:39 AM
For the ladies he met at the cracker barrels!!!! :laugh:

They have the most tasteless food I've ever encountered. Not a fan.

He has no taste. lol

:D

Palomine
02-22-2012, 10:40 AM
This trail is not the dog and pont show the Anthony trial was...this one is so much more professional. His defense are great! We were discussing last night how we feel that Klink ( is that his name?) really can't stand Jason.

might be upset that Jason took the stand against lawyers advise

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:40 AM
I really hope he takes the stand, but I wonder if he won't do it - simply because this testimony is being replayed and he gets his "side" of the story out without having to go through cross-examination again.

I am sure Holt has thought up a lot more questions to corner Jason in.. And I am sure the defense knows that.. So this videotape might do the "job"... getting his side out w/o risking going through cross-exam once more.

I wouldn't testify either if I was him. The problem that I see with showing this testimony now is that he WON'T take the stand and she won't get that opportunity to nail him like she should have in the first trial. I'm hoping that the purpose of this is to debunk it all with Spivey.

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:41 AM
Cigarette smoking is very bad but cigar smoking isn't?

CatToy
02-22-2012, 10:41 AM
He is a poser. He is a liar, and he thinks that a cigar makes him a bigger man; more professional; he is so transparent. And he is trailer trash in my book.

JY I hope you read this; you are trailer trash dude. White Trash.

Smash Badger
02-22-2012, 10:42 AM
He's getting his whole testimony from what all the witnesses testified to. I would bet money he didn't know they were "cheap" until it was testified to that they were the "cheaper made ones).

I would like to hear from somebody who saw him with these shoes on before the murder and ask them if they looked "worn".

I would also like to know just "when" these HP were given to GW, he just stated how he loved those shoes because they were comfortable, why didn't he go right out and buy another pair, why did he wait to buy another pair the day he went in for his police interview?

I believe I heard him say she did it for the tax write off correct? Where his/their tax returns examined?

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 10:42 AM
No, he kept them in his suitcase, for his "business" trips.

I didn't know that, thanks. I wonder if Michelle ever unpacked his suitcase and found them.

This cross is so frustrating. I wish someone else had done it.

Lyndyloo
02-22-2012, 10:42 AM
Morning :D

Late to get started ..Yikes..Jason has a different look today in this video..His memories is lacking, and he just denies things he cant explain..However, BH is NO Freda Black thats for sure..accent similar but Freda would never never just drop a line of questioning like Becky does...

Think it's a good thing to show this after Det.Spivey 's testimony, so it really shows up all the lies!! His troot (truthe as Doc Murray would say) is far from realities of his life and actions!!!

Smash Badger
02-22-2012, 10:43 AM
Cigarette smoking is very bad but cigar smoking isn't?

Well, lung cancer is worse than mouth/throat cancer. :rolleyes: And he knows since he sells medical supplies. :rolleyes:

Gurlmom
02-22-2012, 10:44 AM
NOTHING is this man's fault, ever....

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 10:44 AM
CT suffers a chill and cringes.

He is skanky and most of the women he was with were totally out of his league. He is such a loser! (I still believe he is gay too) H e may have shagged lot of women; but he also looked up gay bars in NY.

He's bi. And he is skeery skeevy skanky.

Your not the first that thinks he could possibly be Bi. It wouldn't suprise me.

Gurlmom
02-22-2012, 10:45 AM
Your not the first that thinks he could possibly be Bi. It wouldn't suprise me.

Latent homosexual....deny, deny, deny

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:45 AM
I believe I heard him say she did it for the tax write off correct? Where his/their tax returns examined?

I don't know if they were or not. I have a hard time believing she did it for tax purposes but she was an accountant so maybe she did, you have to donate an awful lot for it to really make a difference. I'm always giving stuff away to GW, VA and other organizations and I never get a receipt. There's an amount that you automatically deduct without show receipts and that's the figure my accountant uses.

pegleg
02-22-2012, 10:45 AM
He is an accomplished pathological liar -- he lies when he doesn't even have to. Most of us just don't do that -- it's not that easy for many of us to lie easily and convincingly. During this break, the cross by BH is playing -- listen for his lies about things that have nothing to do with the murder or anything.

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 10:46 AM
He gets jumpy and jittery when Holt asks something that pisses him off. And he gives waaay to detailed of an answer which in my mind means he is lying (which we all know he is doing).

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:46 AM
So now he's basically saying that all those people who testified were liars.

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 10:47 AM
NOTHING is this man's fault, ever....

Reminds me of the Song * Momma Told Me There Would Days Like This*

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 10:47 AM
Between all his business trips, and all his football games and getting together with his friends how the how much time was HE at the house. Seems to me he left Michelle home alone an awful lot.

and the house seemed a bit isolated to me. Yes there were neighbors, but it didn't seem like a social area for an out going woman like Michelle. Abusers tend to isolate, and I think that's why he approved of that house. She should have been in a community with play dates and things like that. That house depresses me. I would never live there. :(

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 10:47 AM
Oh brother, imo, there's something skanky about this mother/son relationship.

Most comfortable around the ones who know you best I suppose. Don't have to worry about letting something slip out, momma knows it all.

IMO,
Lilismom

Scampi
02-22-2012, 10:47 AM
NOTHING is this man's fault, ever....

Nope, nothing........ever. I can only imagine the stress poor Michelle had living with this type of asshole day in and day out, she had to have been drained.

Thrace
02-22-2012, 10:47 AM
liar - he was talking to MM

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:48 AM
Well, lung cancer is worse than mouth/throat cancer. :rolleyes: And he knows since he sells medical supplies. :rolleyes:

Silly me :doh:

Sea Saw
02-22-2012, 10:48 AM
NOTHING is this man's fault, ever....

Lies, Justifies, Excuses… Lies, Justifies, Excuses… repeat over and over and over........... :aagh:

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:49 AM
Amazing he doesn't remember anything negative that ever happened.

Lyndyloo
02-22-2012, 10:49 AM
WOW..Ive been listening to all the things that seem to make him mad..yikes..Poor Michelle..she must have been walking on eggshells throughout their relationship. He'd lose it on her at the drop of a hat!! Yet he thinks he's the mellow, go with the flow type person..Man Gerrrrrr

Bex
02-22-2012, 10:49 AM
I wouldn't testify either if I was him. The problem that I see with showing this testimony now is that he WON'T take the stand and she won't get that opportunity to nail him like she should have in the first trial. I'm hoping that the purpose of this is to debunk it all with Spivey.

I agree with you, but I was hoping he'd take the stand again. Holt has her A-game on in this trial - I know she'd get him during cross-exam.. but Jason would be stupid to testify again.

NOTHING is this man's fault, ever....

Can you imagine being married to him? What a nightmare!

He gets jumpy and jittery when Holt asks something that pisses him off. And he gives waaay to detailed of an answer which in my mind means he is lying (which we all know he is doing).

Yup..

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 10:50 AM
might be upset that Jason took the stand against lawyers advise

Oh he did? Wow...what a cocky bastard!

Bex
02-22-2012, 10:50 AM
WOW..Ive been listening to all the things that seem to make him mad..yikes..Poor Michelle..she must have been walking on eggshells throughout their relationship. He'd lose it on her at the drop of a hat!! Yet he thinks he's the mellow, go with the flow type person..Man Gerrrrrr

He'd lose it quickly and abruptly, then blame it ALL on her.. Like in his emails, he always talks about her "issues".. Yet this scumbag was clearly a violent, bullying scum.. AND sex addict... and cheater and liar! I bet he justified all of his cheating and made it okay, because (his perceived) issues Michelle had..

Talina
02-22-2012, 10:51 AM
I think his testimony be a lot more believable if he'd at least take some responsibility for their disagreements and have at least a little bit of remorse for his infidelity. He has neither. Nothing is his fault and his infidelities are justified.

IMO

disgusting

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:52 AM
He gets jumpy and jittery when Holt asks something that pisses him off. And he gives waaay to detailed of an answer which in my mind means he is lying (which we all know he is doing).

Yes, he's not as relaxed looking now, is he. And his constantly going back and saying what's been testified too, raises red flags to me, tells me right off that he is tailoring his testimony and not just answering the questions as presented.

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 10:53 AM
I didn't know that, thanks. I wonder if Michelle ever unpacked his suitcase and found them.

This cross is so frustrating. I wish someone else had done it.

Why? I heard several people say this. :D I thought she exposed him a few times.

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:53 AM
I would say 95% of men don't think they get enough sex :funslap:

pegleg
02-22-2012, 10:53 AM
Since when is "home" your mom's house, not your own?


My thoughts exactly. I don't think that statement was a lie!

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 10:54 AM
I'm wondering if it wouldn't have made more sense to play this FIRST and then put up the folks to debunk the lies. Using it this way, unless there is a huge AHA moment coming, you gotta hope the jury was paying attention to every word said by every witness thus far.

IMO,
Lilismom

Lyndyloo
02-22-2012, 10:54 AM
He'd lose it quickly and abruptly, then blame it ALL on her.. Like in his emails, he always talks about her "issues".. Yet this scumbag was clearly a violent, bullying scum.. AND sex addict... and cheater and liar! I bet he justified all of his cheating and made it okay, because (his perceived) issues Michelle had..

Sure wish there was a Like Button here :D I read so many posts that I so agree with..and dont always reply..so Please everyone keep up the good work!!:wub:

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 10:54 AM
FGS just answer the damn question that you told any and everybody that you weren't getting enough sex! Creep.

Scampi
02-22-2012, 10:55 AM
Love these "Did you love your wife" questions to the slayer.

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 10:56 AM
I would say 95% of men don't think they get enough sex :funslap:

No shit. And I can see it being a joke between close buddies but he just couldn't keep his mouth shut about it. And he just keep nitpicking her questions. I hope he gets some icky sick peepee disease!

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 10:56 AM
Holt succeeded in making him look like the cheating ahole he is, but not a murderer. Hope she gets a chance to get it right this time. Get on that stand again fool, I dare ya.

IMO,
Lilismom

paige1
02-22-2012, 10:56 AM
um, hello where is brooke tomlinson?

whatever
02-22-2012, 10:57 AM
FGS just answer the damn question that you told any and everybody that you weren't getting enough sex! Creep.

He wont be sex starved in central prison!!! :funslap::spew:

Talina
02-22-2012, 10:57 AM
Wow, he is sure cocky with his expressions and body language with BH.

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 10:58 AM
He wont be sex starved in central prison!!! :funslap::spew:

Yeppers...bet he will wish he had those condoms in prison.

paige1
02-22-2012, 10:58 AM
CT suffers a chill and cringes.

He is skanky and most of the women he was with were totally out of his league. He is such a loser! (I still believe he is gay too) H e may have shagged lot of women; but he also looked up gay bars in NY.

He's bi. And he is skeery skeevy skanky.

Sociopaths are generally a-sexual. Meaning, they will have sex with anyone - woman/man. I was hoping they would find a man he had sex with and put him on the stand!

nanandjim
02-22-2012, 10:58 AM
He makes me sick.

CatToy
02-22-2012, 10:58 AM
I love seeing him confronted by a woman; he hates women. Easily could have been a rapist, he takes advantage if given an in and I felt with Sowerby he did just that.
Maybe she wanted him; but I'm pretty sure he is aggressive and Michelle found that out too. She had a sexual issue with Jason; because I think he was inappropriate towards all women.

She knew he was a liar, I'm sure. In her heart and gut it must have killed her inside.

Simba
02-22-2012, 10:59 AM
Okay, I know I heard this name Brooke Tomlinson (sp) but don't know if it is because some of those who watched the trial the first time have brought her up or not, or because I saw that name in an e-mail. For some reason I feel like I read in an e-mail the discussion about him not staying at her house.

kate482000
02-22-2012, 10:59 AM
So far Holt is attacking his character, not any evidence to prove his guilt.

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 10:59 AM
Awww now isn't that sweet...he and Michelle Money brainstorming together to save each of their marriages. GAWD!

Thrace
02-22-2012, 10:59 AM
so in essence he wasn't working on his marriage.

CatToy
02-22-2012, 10:59 AM
Well, lung cancer is worse than mouth/throat cancer. :rolleyes: And he knows since he sells medical supplies. :rolleyes:

Mouth and throat can disfigure the face. He is extremely rude a prick and vain to boot.

GeauxldnGurl
02-22-2012, 10:59 AM
Sociopaths are generally a-sexual. Meaning, they will have sex with anyone - woman/man. I was hoping they would find a man he had sex with and put him on the stand!



I thought that was trisexual. Try anyone. :dnaughty:

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 11:00 AM
He'd lose it quickly and abruptly, then blame it ALL on her.. Like in his emails, he always talks about her "issues".. Yet this scumbag was clearly a violent, bullying scum.. AND sex addict... and cheater and liar! I bet he justified all of his cheating and made it okay, because (his perceived) issues Michelle had..

I loathe him

CatToy
02-22-2012, 11:00 AM
He has mommy issues as well.

nanandjim
02-22-2012, 11:00 AM
What an idiot.

Simba
02-22-2012, 11:00 AM
So Michelle Money thinks she was having an (intimate) affair, and JY relates it to just having sexual intercourse! :rofl:

CatToy
02-22-2012, 11:00 AM
I loathe him

He makes it very easy.

nanandjim
02-22-2012, 11:01 AM
I HAD to sign over Cassidy. HAD to...

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 11:01 AM
I thought that was trisexual. Try anyone. :dnaughty:

:doh::funslap:

IMO,
Lilismom

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 11:02 AM
Anyone else trying to move that cursor off the screen with their mouse?!! lol

nanandjim
02-22-2012, 11:02 AM
I didn't have the money to fight them. Right...Sure...Why not answer a few questions, sonny?

Palomine
02-22-2012, 11:02 AM
Alice Stubbs was involved in Cooper case

jusdafacts
02-22-2012, 11:03 AM
Anyone else trying to move that cursor off the screen with their mouse?!! lol

Yes, i've been trying to jab it into his fugly head

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 11:03 AM
Anyone else trying to move that cursor off the screen with their mouse?!! lol
:funslap:

Simba
02-22-2012, 11:03 AM
I'm wondering if it wouldn't have made more sense to play this FIRST and then put up the folks to debunk the lies. Using it this way, unless there is a huge AHA moment coming, you gotta hope the jury was paying attention to every word said by every witness thus far.

IMO,
Lilismom

I was thinking that too. I'm hoping that they are saying, wait a minute that's not what the witness testified to. I'm afraid it's just going to come down to who they believe is lying, JY or the witnesses.

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 11:04 AM
I doubt it would have cost him very much to fight for Cassidy as he IS her father and the courts would lean towards his side. I know that it is bullshit but I am not seeing where there is a money issue at all.

whatever
02-22-2012, 11:04 AM
Alice Stubbs was involved in Cooper case

Yea i thought she was a pit bull when it came to brads depo!!

Palomine
02-22-2012, 11:04 AM
I didn't know that, thanks. I wonder if Michelle ever unpacked his suitcase and found them.

This cross is so frustrating. I wish someone else had done it.

the prosecutor was caught off guard by Jason taking the stand..they may have asked for a delay so they could get back up information on his testimony and maybe it was denied

remember they heard his story for the first time..like we did

Thrace
02-22-2012, 11:04 AM
Okay, I know I heard this name Brooke Tomlinson (sp) but don't know if it is because some of those who watched the trial the first time have brought her up or not, or because I saw that name in an e-mail. For some reason I feel like I read in an e-mail the discussion about him not staying at her house.

MY's co-worker testifed that in summer/fall 2006 that JY was going to stay at her place. MY was not happy about it - she said "and you know why".

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 11:04 AM
Love these "Did you love your wife" questions to the slayer.

I thought she did well on cross. I LOVE her tone..he hates forthright women ( Linda)...some people do not so I'm interested in what they saw that I didn't. :o

Simba
02-22-2012, 11:05 AM
Man, he is really trying to hard to not answer this question outright!

nanandjim
02-22-2012, 11:05 AM
Oh! Yes, it feels like an FU to Michelle to me.
We used to pluck the petals out of daisies and say, "He loves me. He loves me not." Jason probably gave her the daisies, with a "He loves me not." in mind.

janesdean
02-22-2012, 11:05 AM
I doubt it would have cost him very much to fight for Cassidy as he IS her father and the courts would lean towards his side. I know that it is bullshit but I am not seeing where there is a money issue at all.

He didn't have money to fight for custody of Cassidy, he didn't have money for an attorney (he has public defender) BUT he came up with $900,000.00 to bail out of jail.

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 11:06 AM
Holt succeeded in making him look like the cheating ahole he is, but not a murderer. Hope she gets a chance to get it right this time. Get on that stand again fool, I dare ya.

IMO,
Lilismom

OK yes, I can see that. But hopefully this jury will see how it all played into offing Michelle.

She also exposes how he wouldnt talk to the LE or inquire about Michelle's case

Barbara2
02-22-2012, 11:06 AM
I was thinking that too. I'm hoping that they are saying, wait a minute that's not what the witness testified to. I'm afraid it's just going to come down to who they believe is lying, JY or the witnesses.

This is from the first trial. BH was pathetic in this part. It's not going to get any better before this ends. I think HC is going to challenge a lot of this through Spivey when this tape ends.

Smash Badger
02-22-2012, 11:06 AM
I would say 95% of men don't think they get enough sex :funslap:

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_381/1238186341tYz7t0.jpg

kate482000
02-22-2012, 11:06 AM
Anyone else trying to move that cursor off the screen with their mouse?!! lol

LOL....:doh: I thought it was just me...

Palomine
02-22-2012, 11:07 AM
really who stops at restaurant while racing back home

Lyndyloo
02-22-2012, 11:08 AM
This jerk couldnt even fake being loving to Michelle to keep her happy...For all his acting with these other women..he just couldnt act similar with his own wife!! HE didnt love his wife HE probably HATED her!!! IF he could have kept his temper and tormenting in check..Michelle would never have known any different. and even though it would have been a lie..She would never have felt so demeaned and isolated!!

Jason is "Pathological" and seems to have a need to torment, belittle and break down esteme to control!! I dont even know this guy..but have met many like him...my X tho never physically violent had alot of Jason's traits!!

:(

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 11:08 AM
Yeah I bet the first thing you wanted to see sure WAS Cassidy...bet you couldn't have stuck a hot needle up his ass until he saw that she wasn't talking about that night!

Gurlmom
02-22-2012, 11:08 AM
He didn't have money to fight for custody of Cassidy, he didn't have money for an attorney (he has public defender) BUT he came up with $900,000.00 to bail out of jail.

Something very wrong with this scenario.....

Simba
02-22-2012, 11:08 AM
I didn't have the money to fight them. Right...Sure...Why not answer a few questions, sonny?

But had money to take trips.

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 11:09 AM
....as was testified to :rolleyes:

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 11:10 AM
Ask him WHY he wanted an attorney first thing! ASK HIM!

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 11:11 AM
really who stops at restaurant while racing back home

I'm thinking the same thing. This and WHAT all did anyone need to pack? Get in the truck and get gone, whatever I need when we get there I will buy, let's go!

IMO,
Lilismom

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 11:11 AM
Says a lot about Michelle Money when she is with the murderer when he mails the Happy Anniversary card to his wife. Why pray tell did he bother.

janesdean
02-22-2012, 11:11 AM
His attorney probably told him not to talk to LE ever because his story is so lame

Simba
02-22-2012, 11:11 AM
Anyone else trying to move that cursor off the screen with their mouse?!! lol

I don't see anything :dunno:

Oh, wait, now he's saying he WAS HAVING an affair. Thought they were just good "talking" buddies and only slept together that one weekend.

Lyndyloo
02-22-2012, 11:11 AM
Ask him WHY he wanted an attorney first thing! ASK HIM!

Think

he said his friends told him not to talk to LE until got a Lawyer..

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 11:11 AM
Awww now isn't that sweet...he and Michelle Money brainstorming together to save each of their marriages. GAWD!

all while screwing! :doh:

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 11:12 AM
But had money to take trips.

Michelle's 401k money.

IMO,
Lilismom

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 11:13 AM
Anyone else trying to move that cursor off the screen with their mouse?!! lol

:funslap:

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 11:13 AM
His attorney probably told him not to talk to LE ever because his story is so lame

:funslap:

nanandjim
02-22-2012, 11:13 AM
But had money to take trips.
Excellent point. She should have brought this up!!!!!!!!!

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 11:14 AM
Says a lot about Michelle Money when she is with the murderer when he mails the Happy Anniversary card to his wife. Why pray tell did he bother.

Don't forget she also helped him shop for her gifts. Glasses, purses and whatnot.

IMO,
Lilismom

Simba
02-22-2012, 11:14 AM
MY's co-worker testifed that in summer/fall 2006 that JY was going to stay at her place. MY was not happy about it - she said "and you know why".

So it was brought up earlier in this trial! Hopefully the jury remembers her testimony.

And Thank you for always taking the time to answer my mundane questions :wub:

janesdean
02-22-2012, 11:15 AM
that's all i have, thank you !! UNBELIEVABLE

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 11:15 AM
Excellent point. She should have brought this up!!!!!!!!!
He would just say his mommy paid for it

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 11:15 AM
That's it? Are you kidding me?

Talina
02-22-2012, 11:15 AM
Prior to this video, was Pancof introduced into this trial yet?

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 11:15 AM
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_381/1238186341tYz7t0.jpg

:funslap:

Scampi
02-22-2012, 11:16 AM
I think under the circumstances Holt did a good job with the slayer. It's very hard to get the best of a sociopath, imo.

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 11:16 AM
that's all i have, thank you !! UNBELIEVABLE

And thus, the hung jury.

IMO,
Lilismom

Palomine
02-22-2012, 11:16 AM
let this video be over...I want to hear from Spivey

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 11:17 AM
really who stops at restaurant while racing back home

The Young family...because they know what's up and really don't give a shit? :scared:

Thrace
02-22-2012, 11:17 AM
jury has to be wondering what the pancof is about since it's not be brought up in this trial.

Simba
02-22-2012, 11:17 AM
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_381/1238186341tYz7t0.jpg

:funslap:

Palomine
02-22-2012, 11:17 AM
Prior to this video, was Pancof introduced into this trial yet?

this was the first I heard of it..when he professionally testified to it...Even though he is NOT an expert...just a salesperson

Lyndyloo
02-22-2012, 11:18 AM
Ohhhh Dear..why is the def.attny trying to emphasis this pancof?? I dont recall the pharmacy testimony in this trial yet..so not sure if this jury will understand the true meaning of it???

IT IS NOT A SAFE DRUG!!

janesdean
02-22-2012, 11:18 AM
And thus, the hung jury.

IMO,
Lilismom

So, what do you think Lili, think this jury will see thru his bs ?

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 11:18 AM
let this video be over...I want to hear from Spivey

me too. i want to know why they played this now and not at the beginning. i'm thinking that really would have been the more effective way of using his testimony against him. play tape and then put on witnesses to debunk. especially the rock in the lock crock.

IMO,
Lilismom

Thrace
02-22-2012, 11:18 AM
Prior to this video, was Pancof introduced into this trial yet?

No, first trial. Had a SBI chemist on the stand to testify a component of it was found in the medicine dropper (in CY's room).

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 11:19 AM
Does Jason and or his mother visit with Cassidy, if you know?

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 11:19 AM
Yes. Had a SBI chemist on the stand to testify a component of it was found in the medicine dropper (in CY's room).
In this trial or the 1st?

kate482000
02-22-2012, 11:19 AM
He's looking at the jury during this re-cross like he's got it all wrapped up...

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 11:20 AM
Don't forget she also helped him shop for her gifts. Glasses, purses and whatnot.

IMO,
Lilismom

What a sweetheart.............................:fishfight:

Talina
02-22-2012, 11:20 AM
Yes. Had a SBI chemist on the stand to testify a component of it was found in the medicine dropper (in CY's room).

In this trial or the first one? I don't remember it being in testimony in this trial yet before now. Maybe I just missed it.

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 11:21 AM
So, what do you think Lili, think this jury will see thru his bs ?

I hope they were paying attention to the details all along to know where he was baffling them with b.s. I hope someone took good notes. It is easy for us after all this time, who know the details, to pick out the lies and inconsistencies but will they? My point is, how did they know what to specifically listen for if they didn't know what he said first?

IMO,
Lilismom

Thrace
02-22-2012, 11:24 AM
In this trial or the first one? I don't remember it being in testimony in this trial yet before now. Maybe I just missed it.

I tried to edit my post - but couldn't get it to save. No, it's not been introduced in this trial - only the first one.

Simba
02-22-2012, 11:25 AM
I'm thinking the same thing. This and WHAT all did anyone need to pack? Get in the truck and get gone, whatever I need when we get there I will buy, let's go!

IMO,
Lilismom

Without going into it, I encountered an episode with my oldest son who lives in a state 3 hours away from me, got a phone call 1:00 am, hubby and I jumped in the car with the clothes on our back. I will admit we stopped at a fast food joint that was open to use the bathroom and got some coffee when we had about a half hour left to reach our destination. I went to a department store the next day, or rather that afternoon, and bought us some clothes and essentials since we knew we would be staying in a hotel 2 days.

bernie
02-22-2012, 11:25 AM
I would say 95% of men don't think they get enough sex :funslap:

As a man I agree that's probably true however I would never complain to anyone seems scummy to me .....

janesdean
02-22-2012, 11:27 AM
I hope they were paying attention to the details all along to know where he was baffling them with b.s. I hope someone took good notes. It is easy for us after all this time, who know the details, to pick out the lies and inconsistencies but will they? My point is, how did they know what to specifically listen for if they didn't know what he said first?

IMO,
Lilismom

bcbm~

It worries me too, the only thing that can save this is if Pros comes back strong and takes his testimony apart word by word. Nerve wracking isn't it ?

bernie
02-22-2012, 11:28 AM
really who stops at restaurant while racing back home

That stuck out to me to .... for god sake wouldn't you hurry to the house? .....

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 11:29 AM
Without going into it, I encountered an episode with my oldest son who lives in a state 3 hours away from me, got a phone call 1:00 am, hubby and I jumped in the car with the clothes on our back. I will admit we stopped at a fast food joint that was open to use the bathroom and got some coffee when we had about a half hour left to reach our destination. I went to a department store the next day, or rather that afternoon, and bought us some clothes and essentials since we knew we would be staying in a hotel 2 days.

Exactly. You buy the damn funeral clothes and underwear when you get there, but you get your a$$ on the road asap. That is, if you're truly innocent. An innocent man gets off his plumb knees and gets right back in the truck and says if you're coming, let's roll. You don't wait for folks to show up and pack etc.

IMO,
Lilismom

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 11:29 AM
As a man I agree that's probably true however I would never complain to anyone seems scummy to me .....

How about your mom, would you discuss that with her? Just wondering.

janesdean
02-22-2012, 11:30 AM
That stuck out to me to .... for god sake wouldn't you hurry to the house? .....

Probably scared to death after what he had done to Michelle, that's why he was avoiding Raleigh the whole day. Sending Meredith there to find Michelle, going to another hospital for a cold call, and then on to Brevard, all STALL tactics cuz he was a guilty, murdering freak and didn't want to face LE or Michelle's family !

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 11:30 AM
bcbm~

It worries me too, the only thing that can save this is if Pros comes back strong and takes his testimony apart word by word. Nerve wracking isn't it ?

And in closing they say "you heard what he said on the stand the first time, a man with EVERY REASON IN THE WORLD TO LIE versus what the witnesses said, most of whom have no dog in this fight, now, who do you believe"?

IMO,
Lilismom

Simba
02-22-2012, 11:32 AM
jury has to be wondering what the pancof is about since it's not be brought up in this trial.I

I was thinking the same thing. I would be like, huh, what are they talking about and why.

Is Spivey the last one to testify for the State? I'm thinking the only way what they just did, showing JY's testimony, is if the defense is going to ask Spivey specific questions to rebut what JY just said, but will the defense be allowed to do that? Can be the, for lack of a better word, catch-all witness, one that can testify to "everything". I wouldn't think he could testify to this Brooke chick or even to the medication aspect :dunno:

janesdean
02-22-2012, 11:32 AM
How about your mom, would you discuss that with her? Just wondering.

Definitely took a lot of gall to complain about lack of sex w/Michelle, she told the therapist sex with JY was like being raped, being forced to have sex!

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 11:32 AM
let this video be over...I want to hear from Spivey

Me too! The pros had a chance to do their homework this time around..I'm glad it was hung and not an aquittal! Not often you get a second chance! I bet Ashton and Linda would have LOVED a second chance to bring Mizz Amphony down!

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 11:33 AM
bcbm~

It worries me too, the only thing that can save this is if Pros comes back strong and takes his testimony apart word by word. Nerve wracking isn't it ?

If I was sitting on that jury, among other things, a glaring fact is his complete unemotional behavior concerning his wife during his testimony at the first trial and so far this trial.

bernie
02-22-2012, 11:33 AM
How about your mom, would you discuss that with her? Just wondering.

NEVER .......

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 11:34 AM
Definitely took a lot of gall to complain about lack of sex w/Michelle, she told the therapist sex with JY was like being raped, being forced to have sex!

OMG I did not know that!

nanandjim
02-22-2012, 11:34 AM
He would just say his mommy paid for it
Not if they could prove that it was all put on his credit card. They are supposed to be prepared for all questions.

Also, he comes across as very unlikeable in the video. I can't believe that he wasn't convicted the first time.

jammies
02-22-2012, 11:35 AM
The Young family...because they know what's up and really don't give a shit? :scared:


Yep. Obviously they were in NO HURRY to get JY home.

Had to get the story straight and rehearse their little darling.

janesdean
02-22-2012, 11:35 AM
If I was sitting on that jury, among other things, a glaring fact is his complete unemotional behavior concerning his wife during his testimony at the first trial and so far this trial.

We have to remember that we have had 5+ years of being exposed to all kinds of information, the jury has not heard all of this, so it is very scary to me what they will come up with

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 11:35 AM
NEVER .......

That's what I thought. Thanks for the reply. I found telling his mother about *not getting enough sex* was sick.

SondraK
02-22-2012, 11:36 AM
After a distress call from my daughter who was a 10 hour drive away,I was on the road within an hour. And I agree, I stopped for gas and quickie food, but otherwise drove straight through , not always within the speed limit. This whole story reeks of unreality

Talina
02-22-2012, 11:36 AM
OMG I did not know that!

Yes.She told the therapist that testified that she'd been assaulted in college and having sex with JY made her feel like she was being assaulted all over again. She said it wasn't like that with other men after the assault, but it was with JY.

janesdean
02-22-2012, 11:36 AM
I hope Becky Holt is spending her lunch hour today pouring over this case and JY's testimony, and comes back armed and dangerous !!!!

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 11:36 AM
As a man I agree that's probably true however I would never complain to anyone seems scummy to me .....

Remember this is the same man who rumor has it performed penis puppetry, which by itself is bizarre behavior, let alone in mixed company. No shame, no class, nothing is sacred. Complaints about lack of sex were to justify his multiple affairs, nothing more. Total scumbag.

IMO,
Lilismom

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 11:37 AM
We have to remember that we have had 5+ years of being exposed to all kinds of information, the jury has not heard all of this, so it is very scary to me what they will come up with

I didn't see the first trial and really knew very little going into this one.

enigma™
02-22-2012, 11:37 AM
Why is there no video from Applebee's? That would be some interesting viewing, to be sure.

Sea Saw
02-22-2012, 11:37 AM
bcbm~

It worries me too, the only thing that can save this is if Pros comes back strong and takes his testimony apart word by word. Nerve wracking isn't it ?

BBM I'm nervous to see what happens next, but trying hard to stay positive. I'm convinced if he walks, we'll be here in the future watching a trial for the murder of his next victim. :(

pegleg
02-22-2012, 11:37 AM
I caught that yesterday as well. In his mind he never left, never grew up, tied to his mom's apron strings.

You know, I'm wondering if Jason really hates his mom, and that's why he disrespects and treats women so badly.

Yes, Bourbon, that same thing struck me, too. The "Peter Pan" syndrome came to my mind...



The article below is an excerpt from

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070501112023.htm

Read thru it sports fans and see what you think....

But remember it is only one article from many, so take it also with a grain of salt. Online articles may or may not be the absolute best authority, etc., etc.

It's a good read....

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Overprotecting Parents Can Lead Children To Develop 'Peter Pan Syndrome'

ScienceDaily (May 1, 2007) — The ‘Peter Pan Syndrome’ affects people who do not want or feel unable to grow up, people with the body of an adult but the mind of a child. They don’t know how to or don’t want to stop being children and start being mothers or fathers.


The syndrome is not currently considered a psychopathology, given the World Health Organization has not recognized it as a psychological disorder. However, an increasingly larger number of adults are presenting emotionally immature behaviors in Western society. They are unable to grow up and take on adult responsibilities, and even dress up and enjoy themselves as teenagers when they are over 30 years old.
Humbelina Robles Ortega, professor of the Department of Personality, Evaluation and Psychological Treatment of the University of Granada and an expert in emotional disorders, warns that the overprotection of parents can lead children to develop the Peter Pan Syndrome, given “it usually affects dependent people who have been overprotected by their families and haven’t developed the necessary skills to confront life.” The ‘Peter Pans’ of present society “see the adult world as very problematic and glorify adolescence, which is why they want to stay in that state of privilege.”
More men than women affected
Peter Pan Syndrome can affect both sexes, but it appears more often among men. Some characteristics of the disorder are the inability of individuals to take on responsibilities, to commit themselves or to keep promises, excessive care about the way they look and personal well-being and their lack of self-confidence, even though they don’t seem to show it and actually come across as exactly the opposite.
The UGR professor declares that these people are usually scared of loneliness, which is why they try to surround themselves with people who can meet their needs. “They become anxious when they are evaluated by their work colleagues or their superiors, given they are completely intolerant towards any criticism. Sometimes they can have serious adaptation problems at work or in personal relationships.”
Another characteristic of people suffering from the ‘Peter Pan Syndrome’ is that they are constantly changing partners and looking for younger ones. “Whenever the relationship starts to ask for a high level of commitment and responsibility, they become afraid and break it up. Relationships with younger women have the advantage of being able to live by the day without any worries, and they also involve less future plans, therefore less responsibilities.”

Barbara2
02-22-2012, 11:38 AM
I hope Becky Holt is spending her lunch hour today pouring over this case and JY's testimony, and comes back armed and dangerous !!!!

I think Howard is going to handle it this time. He's going to continue with the direct of Spivey.

janesdean
02-22-2012, 11:38 AM
Yes.She told the therapist that testified that she'd been assaulted in college and having sex with JY made her feel like she was being assaulted all over again. She said it wasn't like that with other men after the assault, but it was with JY.

Such a POS, I can't believe what a creep this guy is.

enigma™
02-22-2012, 11:38 AM
If I was sitting on that jury, among other things, a glaring fact is his complete unemotional behavior concerning his wife during his testimony at the first trial and so far this trial.

He appeared almost defiant when questioned by the prosecution. The jutting jaw, the furrowed brow, like she was making no sense. He is a disgusting lying liar who lies.

am glory
02-22-2012, 11:39 AM
Why is there no video from Applebee's? That would be some interesting viewing, to be sure.

I thought they only stopped in the parking lot at Applebee's to make phone calls and didn't actually go in and eat. I might not have that correct, but that's what I remember.

Flipper
02-22-2012, 11:39 AM
That's what I thought. Thanks for the reply. I found telling his mother about *not getting enough sex* was sick.

Like Bernie said, no way would he talk about it to everybody. :doh:

Barbara2
02-22-2012, 11:40 AM
Yep. Obviously they were in NO HURRY to get JY home.

Had to get the story straight and rehearse their little darling.

That's because for JY "home" was his mother's place in Brevard. Raleigh was just "the house".

jammies
02-22-2012, 11:41 AM
I would say 95% of men don't think they get enough sex :funslap:



JY was obsessed with "sex", IMO.


I think he was trying to prove something to himself. He has ISSUES.

Flipper
02-22-2012, 11:41 AM
He appeared almost defiant when questioned by the prosecution. The jutting jaw, the furrowed brow, like she was making no sense. He is a disgusting lying liar who lies.

He did! And indignant!! Are you KIDDING ME?!? Sick %@$^&*#

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 11:41 AM
BBM I'm nervous to see what happens next, but trying hard to stay positive. I'm convinced if he walks, we'll be here in the future watching a trial for the murder of his next victim. :(

I think if he walks (god forbid), they won't try him again for this crime so we'll have to hope he pulls a Vegas OJ at some point down the line. But, let's hope and pray this jury gets it right.

IMO,
Lilismom

Simba
02-22-2012, 11:41 AM
As a man I agree that's probably true however I would never complain to anyone seems scummy to me .....

I have no doubt that you or any of our male posters would ever go around announcing it. As a woman, and I realize men and women think different about things, I have a few reasons as to why JY did this: he had absolutely no respect for Michelle; he tried to use it as an excuse as to why he was bedding down anybody he could; and sort of a "pick up" line, if you would, and would see how far it could take him. But I can see our minds do think a like at times since I think it's scummy too, hence why he's always referred to as SCUM (among other words) LOL

enigma™
02-22-2012, 11:42 AM
I thought they only stopped in the parking lot at Applebee's to make phone calls and didn't actually go in and eat. I might not have that correct, but that's what I remember.

I cannot remember, but if that's the case, why no parking lot footage? I want to see his demeanor en route! :mob:

jammies
02-22-2012, 11:42 AM
That's because for JY "home" was his mother's place in Brevard. Raleigh was just "the house".

Speaking of "home", did they only take one car because they already KNEW JY was coming back? Planned it before they left Brevard?

Barbara2
02-22-2012, 11:44 AM
Speaking of "home", did they only take one car because they already KNEW JY was coming back? Planned it before they left Brevard?

Excellent point. Sure looks that way.

tboagain
02-22-2012, 11:44 AM
hi ya'll busy at this dam job of mine, go figure, only happens when there's a trial, are they on break? when are they do back? thanks.

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 11:44 AM
Yes, Bourbon, that same thing struck me, too. The "Peter Pan" syndrome came to my mind...



The article below is an excerpt from

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070501112023.htm

Read thru it sports fans and see what you think....

But remember it is only one article from many, so take it also with a grain of salt. Online articles may or may not be the absolute best authority, etc., etc.

It's a good read....

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Overprotecting Parents Can Lead Children To Develop 'Peter Pan Syndrome'

ScienceDaily (May 1, 2007) — The ‘Peter Pan Syndrome’ affects people who do not want or feel unable to grow up, people with the body of an adult but the mind of a child. They don’t know how to or don’t want to stop being children and start being mothers or fathers.


The syndrome is not currently considered a psychopathology, given the World Health Organization has not recognized it as a psychological disorder. However, an increasingly larger number of adults are presenting emotionally immature behaviors in Western society. They are unable to grow up and take on adult responsibilities, and even dress up and enjoy themselves as teenagers when they are over 30 years old.
Humbelina Robles Ortega, professor of the Department of Personality, Evaluation and Psychological Treatment of the University of Granada and an expert in emotional disorders, warns that the overprotection of parents can lead children to develop the Peter Pan Syndrome, given “it usually affects dependent people who have been overprotected by their families and haven’t developed the necessary skills to confront life.” The ‘Peter Pans’ of present society “see the adult world as very problematic and glorify adolescence, which is why they want to stay in that state of privilege.”
More men than women affected
Peter Pan Syndrome can affect both sexes, but it appears more often among men. Some characteristics of the disorder are the inability of individuals to take on responsibilities, to commit themselves or to keep promises, excessive care about the way they look and personal well-being and their lack of self-confidence, even though they don’t seem to show it and actually come across as exactly the opposite.
The UGR professor declares that these people are usually scared of loneliness, which is why they try to surround themselves with people who can meet their needs. “They become anxious when they are evaluated by their work colleagues or their superiors, given they are completely intolerant towards any criticism. Sometimes they can have serious adaptation problems at work or in personal relationships.”
Another characteristic of people suffering from the ‘Peter Pan Syndrome’ is that they are constantly changing partners and looking for younger ones. “Whenever the relationship starts to ask for a high level of commitment and responsibility, they become afraid and break it up. Relationships with younger women have the advantage of being able to live by the day without any worries, and they also involve less future plans, therefore less responsibilities.”

Wow!! Thanks for that peg. It solidifies my thoughts about Jason and his mom.

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 11:44 AM
Speaking of "home", did they only take one car because they already KNEW JY was coming back? Planned it before they left Brevard?

Well, someone had to drive his car, he was going into shock and all....

IMO,
Lilismom

jammies
02-22-2012, 11:44 AM
I have no doubt that you or any of our male posters would ever go around announcing it. As a woman, and I realize men and women think different about things, I have a few reasons as to why JY did this: he had absolutely no respect for Michelle; he tried to use it as an excuse as to why he was bedding down anybody he could; and sort of a "pick up" line, if you would, and would see how far it could take him. But I can see our minds do think a like at times since I think it's scummy too, hence why he's always referred to as SCUM (among other words) LOL



I think he had BIGTIMEl issues with his own sexuality. No doubt in tandem with his "Mommy" issues.

To this day!!

Talina
02-22-2012, 11:44 AM
Speaking of "home", did they only take one car because they already KNEW JY was coming back? Planned it before they left Brevard?

Okay. They all came in one car from Brevard to Raleigh but went back at different times.

How did Heather and her husband take CY to Brevard earlier than JY went back. They didn't have their car so did they hitch a ride?

Flipper
02-22-2012, 11:45 AM
:laugh:

Well, someone had to drive his car, he was going into shock and all....

IMO,
Lilismom

:D

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 11:45 AM
Okay. They all came in one car from Brevard to Raleigh but went back at different times.

How did Heather and her husband take CY to Brevard earlier than JY went back. They didn't have their car so did they hitch a ride?

Michelle's Lexus SUV I think....I know it went to Heather after the fact so it makes sense.

IMO,
Lilismom

DeeJay
02-22-2012, 11:46 AM
Definitely took a lot of gall to complain about lack of sex w/Michelle, she told the therapist sex with JY was like being raped, being forced to have sex!

"Perverted sex." That's how Michelle described it to her mother Linda Fisher.

R P D
02-22-2012, 11:46 AM
I had forgotten what a pathetic job Holt did on that cross.
I would have replaced her for this trial based solely on that piss poor performance.

Talina
02-22-2012, 11:47 AM
Michelle's Lexus SUV I think....I know it went to Heather after the fact so it makes sense.

IMO,
Lilismom

I thought the Lexus SUV was taken in for forensics at one point. Seems awfully fast for that to have been done and then released a week later but who knows.

JennaCee
02-22-2012, 11:47 AM
JY was obsessed with "sex", IMO.


I think he was trying to prove something to himself. He has ISSUES.

I agree jammies..
I think he enjoyed the sneaking around..like it was a thrill, a game. He is Pathetic. Maybe he hoped he would get caught messing around with MM...isolate Michelle more from friends.

jammies
02-22-2012, 11:47 AM
Okay. They all came in one car from Brevard to Raleigh but went back at different times.

How did Heather and her husband take CY to Brevard earlier than JY went back. They didn't have their car so did they hitch a ride?

I don't remember, Tal.

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 11:48 AM
I thought the Lexus SUV was taken in for forensics at one point. Seems awfully fast for that to have been done and then released a week later but who knows.

I could be wrong, RPD will know for sure.

IMO,
Lilismom

R P D
02-22-2012, 11:48 AM
I thought the Lexus SUV was taken in for forensics at one point. Seems awfully fast for that to have been done and then released a week later but who knows.

The Lexus was not inspected until they got a SW 7/07

DeeJay
02-22-2012, 11:50 AM
I had forgotten what a pathetic job Holt did on that cross.
I would have replaced her for this trial based solely on that piss poor performance.

I would have preferred Mr. Waller had done the cross.

Flipper
02-22-2012, 11:52 AM
I had forgotten what a pathetic job Holt did on that cross.
I would have replaced her for this trial based solely on that piss poor performance.

I dunno, RPD. Given that they didn't know he would testify, and if he did, WHAT he would say, caught them way offguard, I think. I can see from you guys' perspective why it looked bad, but only because of knowing what you now know. If that makes sense. :D I didn't see the first trial, and watching her cross now, I didn't think it was that bad. They NOW have all the info they need for this trial. :dance:

(However, like someone said earlier, let's hope the jury is taking notes and the things that stand out to us, will stand out to them.) :dnaughty:

Talina
02-22-2012, 11:52 AM
The Lexus was not inspected until they got a SW 7/07

Well, my goodness. That sure seems like a waste to check out her vehicle that long afterwards. Especially if it had already been released and being used by someone else.

R P D
02-22-2012, 11:52 AM
I would have preferred Mr. Waller had done the cross.

Did he do the Dr Cook trial?

jammies
02-22-2012, 11:52 AM
The Lexus was not inspected until they got a SW 7/07

TY, RPD. I have forgotten all the vehicle info.

DeeJay
02-22-2012, 11:55 AM
Did he do the Dr Cook trial?

Don't recall at the moment. I do recall Waller in
JY 1.

am glory
02-22-2012, 11:56 AM
Don't recall at the moment. I do recall Waller in
JY 1.

I don't recall a Waller in the 1st trial.

R P D
02-22-2012, 11:56 AM
Someone posted this on another board.
:laugh:

This cross is like this:

"Did you kill your wife?"
"No."

"You didn't?"
"No, I didn't."

"Hmmm...[shuffles paper] ....Okay."
[30-second pause while consulting notes]

am glory
02-22-2012, 11:57 AM
Someone posted this on another board.
:laugh:

This cross is like this:

"Did you kill your wife?"
"No."

"You didn't?"
"No, I didn't."

"Hmmm...[shuffles paper] ....Okay."
[30-second pause while consulting notes]

Sums it up pretty well!

Tadpole
02-22-2012, 11:59 AM
At work. Whats happening now? On break?

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 12:00 PM
At work. Whats happening now? On break?
they are back...Spivey back on the stand

Simba
02-22-2012, 12:00 PM
1442 seconds, if my math is correct is 24 minutes talking to MM during his anniversary dinner with Michelle. What excuse did he give for being on the phone that long.

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 12:01 PM
Talking about how much JY was on the phone while out with Michelle on their anniversary

enigma™
02-22-2012, 12:01 PM
Jury returns after viewing that hideous video, everyone needed a break!

SPIVEY BACK ON THE STAND.

Before vid shown, talking about Ebay, papers/process/etc. What about that doc? You were discussing 1 or more items, and what you learned about the pretty colors.

Items up for auction, select one, get to go to another page for more detailed info on the item. (details details about Ebay...)

Anything else gleaned? PAGES printed off didn't give full look @ what you can see on Ebay. On the right, shows where bid & price is @ that time, # of bids & how much time left on that auction. The 2 items viewed - FIRST WAS COACH PURSE - AUCTION WAS TO END 1700 PST, or 8pm EST on 11/2/06. OTHER ITEM COACH BAG - Ending was same date @ 1624hours PST. or 7:24 pm. uhmmm that is incorrect, but whatever. mishearing I suppose. I digress :doh:

Phone records - put in chronological order? YES - from several sources, compiled into 1 spreadsheet.

10/12/2006 - Testimony that it was a late anniversary dinner @ Cafe Luna for J & M & that Linda took Michelle to work that morning? What was going on from 5 (when michelle got off work) through dinnertime?

5:02 - call to MM - another @ 5:27 - 1442 seconds To MM... Another text? @ Diane Giardi. Phone calls @ 6:51 Diane Giardi, another to MY's work # & another @ 6:53 to DG. Another to Ryan Schaad, MY work #, a voice mail @ 6:58, another voice mail to DG, 7 to DG, many many calls/VM's to Diane Giardi - WHO IS SHE?

6:03 - 7:29 - no calls recorded - then off to the races w/MM & on & on ad nauseum... look to be Text messages. going back & forth.

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 12:01 PM
1442 seconds, if my math is correct is 24 minutes talking to MM during his anniversary dinner with Michelle. What excuse did he give for being on the phone that long.
work work work...poor guy is so busy :doh:

Flipper
02-22-2012, 12:02 PM
I'm SO GLAD HC is "going there" now. Phone records, etc.

I really think that Michelle found out about him and MM. Possibly suspected him of "doing" others, as well, which might be why she didn't want to ride with the girls, and he was so ticked off about that. :dunno: She might've felt humiliated & didn't want to be around the girls, but also wanted to see if he was being truthful about the golf trip.

Talina
02-22-2012, 12:02 PM
How in the heck is he on his phone so damn much when he is supposed to be having dinner with his wife?

So, he sits there at the table and is constantly on his phone?

kate482000
02-22-2012, 12:03 PM
Yes.She told the therapist that testified that she'd been assaulted in college and having sex with JY made her feel like she was being assaulted all over again. She said it wasn't like that with other men after the assault, but it was with JY.

I wonder when she started feeling this way? It must have been satisfactory in the beginning. I can't imagine marrying a man who made me feel that way. I think it was the way he treated her over-all in the relationship that these feelings found their way into the bedroom.

Simba
02-22-2012, 12:03 PM
What date is he talking about, is this still the anniversary day?

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 12:03 PM
1442 seconds, if my math is correct is 24 minutes talking to MM during his anniversary dinner with Michelle. What excuse did he give for being on the phone that long.

My heart breaks for Michelle.:(

He probably told them it was a business call......

DeeJay
02-22-2012, 12:03 PM
I don't recall a Waller in the 1st trial.

Okay, I just checked & it was Mr. Sachs. (sp?)

Don't know where I got Waller. :doh:

Simba
02-22-2012, 12:04 PM
OMG these are from his anniversary day!

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 12:04 PM
How in the heck is he on his phone so damn much when he is supposed to be having dinner with his wife?

So, he sits there at the table and is constantly on his phone?
Unfortunately speaking from experience...he excused himself saying it was work...had to take the call...and goes outside

jusdafacts
02-22-2012, 12:04 PM
What date is he talking about, is this still the anniversary day?

The date and time of their anniversary dinner

Flipper
02-22-2012, 12:05 PM
How in the heck is he on his phone so damn much when he is supposed to be having dinner with his wife?

So, he sits there at the table and is constantly on his phone?

Exactly, Talina. On the way there, etc. What an ass. Yet he blames her for it. See my post above yours... (this one)

enigma™
02-22-2012, 12:05 PM
8:36, 59 second phone call. Josh Dalton called @ 8:37.. more to MM, MM to JY, and so it continues - you get the general idea - non-stop. puppy luvvvvvvv ain't it grand? :laugh: Guess they were discussing the status of their respective marriages.

1:08 in the morning - still @ it w/MM. then silence until the next day.
Giardi was co-worker of slayer.

Nice anniversary celebration. Couldn't be there for the real deal & when he finally takes her out, attention is still on Orlando. hateful man.

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 12:06 PM
How in the heck is he on his phone so damn much when he is supposed to be having dinner with his wife?

So, he sits there at the table and is constantly on his phone?


Probably said he had the poops so he spent half the dinner in the can.

IMO,
Lilismom

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 12:06 PM
OK I already think he is a piece of shit but this makes me even angrier at MM. Bitch couldn't just back off for a couple of hours?

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 12:07 PM
Unfortunately speaking from experience...he excused himself saying it was work...had to take the call...and goes outside

Pharma sales emergency? Really? I can't stand it. He really thinks he's important.

IMO,
Lilismom

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 12:07 PM
Probably said he had the poops so he spent half the dinner in the can.

IMO,
Lilismom

LOL!!!

Flipper
02-22-2012, 12:07 PM
I'm SO GLAD HC is "going there" now. Phone records, etc.

I really think that Michelle found out about him and MM. Possibly suspected him of "doing" others, as well, which might be why she didn't want to ride with the girls, and he was so ticked off about that. :dunno: She might've felt humiliated & didn't want to be around the girls, but also wanted to see if he was being truthful about the golf trip.

Had to repost cuz board's moving fast & I agree with what you guys are saying! :dance:

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 12:07 PM
I wonder when she started feeling this way? It must have been satisfactory in the beginning. I can't imagine marrying a man who made me feel that way. I think it was the way he treated her over-all in the relationship that these feelings found their way into the bedroom.

Often times abuse starts after the wedding or during a pregnancy. These men can come off so smooth and charming during courtship, that by the time it all happens she's in a position where it may be harder to leave. I worked in a batter women's shelter for many years and seen this time after time.

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 12:08 PM
Pharma sales emergency? Really? I can't stand it. He really thinks he's important.

IMO,
Lilismom
Men like this always do...it is always all about them!

Sea Saw
02-22-2012, 12:08 PM
I'm surprised he wasn't looking at his phone in that picture with Michelle. JERK

Scampi
02-22-2012, 12:08 PM
I'm SO GLAD HC is "going there" now. Phone records, etc.

I really think that Michelle found out about him and MM. Possibly suspected him of "doing" others, as well, which might be why she didn't want to ride with the girls, and he was so ticked off about that. :dunno: She might've felt humiliated & didn't want to be around the girls, but also wanted to see if he was being truthful about the golf trip.

'Bout time. IMO he better step it up a notch and produce a huge "gotcha" moment here in response to the slayer's video testimony. Otherwise, he's just as bad as Holt was in the previous trial, imo.

Plus, if they don't destroy the slayer's previous testimony, then the defense wins one, having his testimony before THIS JURY, without having to skip to the stand. I hope the proscecution knows what they're doing here. :mad:

Talina
02-22-2012, 12:08 PM
Unfortunately speaking from experience...he excused himself saying it was work...had to take the call...and goes outside

Well, if that's the case, then MY was at the table a lot by herself given all those times and lengths of calls.

However, the texting back and forth with him and MM was done right there under MY's nose at the table, IMO.

What a piece of ^&*.

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 12:08 PM
Sounds like Michelle Money was having a hizzy fit that Jason was having an anniversary dinner with her bff. She kept texting him, probably taunting him.

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 12:09 PM
OK I already think he is a piece of shit but this makes me even angrier at MM. Bitch couldn't just back off for a couple of hours?


I WISH we could see what the texts said. Probably something like "enjoy dinner with your WIFE". Yep, I do believe that the married MM had the nerve to get mad that her married boyfriend was having dinner with his wife. After all, she got the sunglasses and the card, what more does she want?

IMO,
Lilismom

R P D
02-22-2012, 12:09 PM
Okay, I just checked & it was Mr. Sachs. (sp?)

Don't know where I got Waller. :doh:

Oh...David Saacks.

He is the lead on the upcoming DP murder trial..... Kathy Taft (March)

Talina
02-22-2012, 12:09 PM
Here comes the testimony impeachment.

aggie c
02-22-2012, 12:09 PM
Here we go.

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 12:09 PM
Well, if that's the case, then MY was at the table a lot by herself given all those times and lengths of calls.

However, the texting back and forth with him and MM was done right there under MY's nose at the table, IMO.

What a piece of ^&*.
I believe you are right...

jusdafacts
02-22-2012, 12:09 PM
I'm SO GLAD HC is "going there" now. Phone records, etc.

I really think that Michelle found out about him and MM. Possibly suspected him of "doing" others, as well, which might be why she didn't want to ride with the girls, and he was so ticked off about that. :dunno: She might've felt humiliated & didn't want to be around the girls, but also wanted to see if he was being truthful about the golf trip.

Had to repost cuz board's moving fast & I agree with what you guys are saying! :dance:

BBM
LOL - Thought i was having deju-vu!!!

Lyndyloo
02-22-2012, 12:10 PM
Man Jason gives all travelling salesmen a bad name!! I'll bet many are looking at their spouse who travel alot for business are taking a second look at them and wonder :scared: My faather travelled alot when I was a youngster (2 weeks out of every month)..and my mom was both mother father, friend, paymate during those years (Awwe the memories) I doubt very much my pappa did any philandering :wub: I know my MOM would never have put up with it!!!

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 12:10 PM
'Bout time. IMO he better step it up a notch and produce a huge "gotcha" moment here in response to the slayer's video testimony. Otherwise, he's just as bad as Holt was in the previous trial, imo.

Plus, if they don't destroy the slayer's previous testimony, then the defense wins one, having his testimony before THIS JURY, without having to skip to the stand. I hope the proscecution knows what they're doing here. :mad:

And he needs to put some zing and fire in his voice when he is questioning. He just comes off as so dull and blah.

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 12:10 PM
OK I already think he is a piece of shit but this makes me even angrier at MM. Bitch couldn't just back off for a couple of hours?

Major slunt! She is a vile, hateful, deceitful, disgusting ho! :fishfight:

enigma™
02-22-2012, 12:10 PM
Lucky 32 - some photo taken, being shown to jury. Michelle & slayer. ick..

Phone calls between MM & JY on the 28th when they were @ dinner @ Lucky 32? Yes.. lots & lots of them later that night. MM trying to reach him. (think I have that right)

NOW ABOUT THE VIDEO - are you aware whether or not that video/testimony was transcribed by court reporter? IT WAS. (approach)

SE #187 - ID? copy of transcription of testimony from earlier trial.
Accurate? YES

HOWARD ! get a mobile mic or something, demmit!

Specific places you made notes of re: investigation? YES SIR.

Publish to jury? OK (judge interjects, but allows - transcripts to jury w/highlighted pages that will be questioned about or some such). passing to jury... this should be fun!

Simba
02-22-2012, 12:10 PM
Now I see how they are going to do this :clap:

I can't believe the defense isn't objecting to this!

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 12:11 PM
that officer looks 12! lol

suki
02-22-2012, 12:11 PM
I WISH we could see what the texts said. Probably something like "enjoy dinner with your WIFE". Yep, I do believe that the married MM had the nerve to get mad that her married boyfriend was having dinner with his wife. After all, she got the sunglasses and the card, what more does she want?

IMO,
Lilismom

Morning,

I am just now getting to watch. so we will not be able to see what the texts said? I want to see!

kate482000
02-22-2012, 12:11 PM
Often times abuse starts after the wedding or during a pregnancy. These men can come off so smooth and charming during courtship, that by the time it all happens she's in a position where it may be harder to leave. I worked in a batter women's shelter for many years and seen this time after time.

Manipulative control freak......she was doomed with this bastard...

Tadpole
02-22-2012, 12:11 PM
Any reason why they wouldnt have access to those text msgs? Apologies if this already explained.

Simba
02-22-2012, 12:11 PM
Let 'her rip!

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 12:12 PM
'Bout time. IMO he better step it up a notch and produce a huge "gotcha" moment here in response to the slayer's video testimony. Otherwise, he's just as bad as Holt was in the previous trial, imo.

Plus, if they don't destroy the slayer's previous testimony, then the defense wins one, having his testimony before THIS JURY, without having to skip to the stand. I hope the proscecution knows what they're doing here. :mad:

Scares me. OMG, this scares me. I have been saying all morning, why not play his testimony FIRST? This way, you're expecting this jury to remember the signifcant details from every witness put on the stand to debunk his lies and not the other way around.

Maybe we're getting to it now.....

IMO,
Lilismom

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 12:12 PM
Sounds like Michelle Money was having a hizzy fit that Jason was having an anniversary dinner with her bff. She kept texting him, probably taunting him.

Ughhhh I loathe her! :fishfight:

Lyndyloo
02-22-2012, 12:13 PM
And he needs to put some zing and fire in his voice when he is questioning. He just comes off as so dull and blah.

I know..We need an "Alan Jackson" type of person doing this!! Showing some passion for the victim ( Spectre Trial) :wub:

Flipper
02-22-2012, 12:13 PM
BBM
LOL - Thought i was having deju-vu!!!

:funslap: Sorry! LMAO! Couldn't help myself! :o

Scampi
02-22-2012, 12:13 PM
And he needs to put some zing and fire in his voice when he is questioning. He just comes off as so dull and blah.

Hiya Tex, ain't gonna happen. That's the way he speaks. The day he examined ole Tartie we all snoozed off..........zzzzzzzzzzzz

Flipper
02-22-2012, 12:15 PM
'Bout time. IMO he better step it up a notch and produce a huge "gotcha" moment here in response to the slayer's video testimony. Otherwise, he's just as bad as Holt was in the previous trial, imo.

Plus, if they don't destroy the slayer's previous testimony, then the defense wins one, having his testimony before THIS JURY, without having to skip to the stand. I hope the proscecution knows what they're doing here. :mad:

I think they do, Scampi. I do. And let's just hope this jury is getting it this time. :scared:

They are pointing out HUGE defects in his testimony here...:dnaughty:

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 12:15 PM
Now I see how they are going to do this :clap:

I can't believe the defense isn't objecting to this!

Their wives promised to chop of their gonads if they objected...:funslap:

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 12:15 PM
I know..We need an "Alan Jackson" type of person doing this!! Showing some passion for the victim ( Spectre Trial) :wub:

Lordy lordy, we would ALL need the vapors if we were watching him! :dance:

DeeJay
02-22-2012, 12:15 PM
Oh...David Saacks.

He is the lead on the upcoming DP murder trial..... Kathy Taft (March)

Thanks. So that's why he's not doing this second trial.
He's working on that one.

I do recall Mr. Cummings sitting in on JY 1. Cummings sat
right behind the pros.

Palomine
02-22-2012, 12:16 PM
ha ha ha Jason screwed himself

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 12:17 PM
Hiya Tex, ain't gonna happen. That's the way he speaks. The day he examined ole Tartie we all snoozed off..........zzzzzzzzzzzz

Bet he is a real "hoot" on a date!:dnaughty:

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 12:18 PM
Manipulative control freak......she was doomed with this bastard...

If not her, some other unfortunate woman. The signs were clearly there with Gwen, but she managed to get out of it. My heart aches for Michelle and her dreams of the family and white picket fence and all she got for that was misery, hell, and eventually, death. :(

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 12:18 PM
ha ha ha Jason screwed himself

Bout the only one he hadn't yet....

IMO,
Lilismom

Palomine
02-22-2012, 12:18 PM
why is that court reporter always yawning??? not stifled yawns ...big huge yawns

Talina
02-22-2012, 12:18 PM
so did i hear that right? JY says he went to ask for a newspaper because there wasn't one in the carousel but the picture shows him to have one in his hand already?

Scampi
02-22-2012, 12:18 PM
Lordy lordy, we would ALL need the vapors if we were watching him! :dance:

There would be a little shrimp swoon for sure.


:dance:

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 12:19 PM
Any reason why they wouldnt have access to those text msgs? Apologies if this already explained.

Hmmm yeah, they had Casey's. Bet they'd be "interesting" to say the least...ughhhh.

Smash Badger
02-22-2012, 12:20 PM
'Bout time. IMO he better step it up a notch and produce a huge "gotcha" moment here in response to the slayer's video testimony. Otherwise, he's just as bad as Holt was in the previous trial, imo.

Plus, if they don't destroy the slayer's previous testimony, then the defense wins one, having his testimony before THIS JURY, without having to skip to the stand. I hope the proscecution knows what they're doing here. :mad:

Yeah....this is pretty much putting me to sleep.

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 12:20 PM
Bout the only one he hadn't yet....

IMO,
Lilismom




:D:wub:

enigma™
02-22-2012, 12:22 PM
Here we go..

Page 72 please. 7/19 - YES SIR

Read that ? Q - now back @ HI, check in, go to get laptop - go back to room? YES SIR...

Q - @ room need key card? NO ... (we just heard all this, so skimming here w/the transcription) slayer yapping about reviewing his software for next day. After looking @ different brochures, wanted to smoke cigar.. in room? NO... what you do bro? Had to go outside to smoke. Just watched end of football game, wanted to check standings, etc.. take same route down? NO - went to car first time, this time wanted to go by front desk. carousel w/papers. Took stairwell closest to my room this time down. Down, to front desk, no papers...

Gonna just wait for questions now...

W/respect to all that, have occasion to go back & watch full video surveillance from HI? YES.

Notice (crickets)... approach... Shows pic of slayer slayer @ front desk. Appear to you he had something in his possession? (stands for show & tell & can't hear him)...

First frame of defendant getting to this front desk? YES (I think - can't hear)...
Able to - upon reviewing those cams, able to determine time prior to that to make observations of defendant before arriving @ front desk? YES - around 23:58.

Already shown during the trial - republish time. dim the lights!

showing desk facing lobby view here... laser pointer poised for action. Time on this clip is 23:58.... 14 seconds earlier than the picture just shown. See figure in background - good eyes - I see darkness. guess slayer is lurking in the shadows. Barely make out something he's holding & hair color is consistent w/defendant.

Can you tell what he's holding - same as he's holding 14 seconds later? APPEARS TO BE THE SAME @ this point.

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 12:22 PM
Note to security camera designers: y'all need to figure out a way to timestamp the videos in a much smaller way so as not to block good stuff.

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 12:23 PM
There would be a little shrimp swoon for sure.


:dance:

Jackson knew how to prosecute with passion.....*swooooon*

Simba
02-22-2012, 12:23 PM
It cracks me up when I hear the DT whispering to each other, LOL

Scampi
02-22-2012, 12:23 PM
Yeah....this is pretty much putting me to sleep.

http://bestsmileys.com/coffee/1.gif

Here ya go smashie, don't want you nodding off.

pegleg
02-22-2012, 12:23 PM
Wow. Sobbing one second, perfectly fine the next.

He's trying to be cooperative, of course!

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 12:23 PM
Is one of the items in his hand the USA newspaper he said he later went to buy while smoking his cigar?

Flipper
02-22-2012, 12:24 PM
:laugh:
Note to security camera designers: y'all need to figure out a way to timestamp the videos in a much smaller way so as not to block good stuff.

Right on, IHT :wub:

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 12:24 PM
It cracks me up when I hear the DT whispering to each other, LOL

Me too...first time I heard them I thought there was a ghost in here.

enigma™
02-22-2012, 12:24 PM
Also looked @ another frame? another version.. HC has short term memory loss :funslap:

HE SAID THAT, not I!

frame by frame torture... let's get to some good stuff here!

Scampi
02-22-2012, 12:25 PM
Jackson knew how to prosecute with passion.....*swooooon*

"Don't go!"


:cry:

kate482000
02-22-2012, 12:25 PM
Yeah....this is pretty much putting me to sleep.

One of the most boring deliveries I have witnessed on a live trial...he has no enthusiasm. You need to keep the jury awake....geez

Flipper
02-22-2012, 12:26 PM
http://bestsmileys.com/coffee/1.gif

Here ya go smashie, don't want you nodding off.

LOL! He needs to find the wabbit. :D
I think this is critical and awesome testimony! :dance:

I Heart Texas
02-22-2012, 12:28 PM
Did you smell the cigar on that jacket?

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 12:29 PM
"Don't go!"


:cry:

I know...he rocked it!:wub:

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 12:29 PM
Why not go all the way out to truck to smoke? No wind. Light for newspaper. Idiot

IMO,
Lilismom

am glory
02-22-2012, 12:29 PM
I live in Michigan and I seldom wear a coat, I hope they have more then what they have shown so far.

Simba
02-22-2012, 12:30 PM
So how did that help, sounds like it was windy to me, just like JY said.

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 12:30 PM
One of the most boring deliveries I have witnessed on a live trial...he has no enthusiasm. You need to keep the jury awake....geez

yep it's all waa waaa waaa waaa waa waaaaaa................... so dull!

enigma™
02-22-2012, 12:32 PM
Page 77.

what did you do? Went to car & got cigar, another brochure... lies lies & more lies. smoked cigar, wind, no opening paper in that! smoked & returned to room. trubble lighting cigar - I'm such a boy scout. and then on to yammer about twigs in doors.

So, while investigating & reviewing clothing that was obtained from luggage & observed in these photos - any outerwear he was wearing - coat or anything? NO, just a suit jacket that I'm aware of. and he went outside to smoke a cigar? YES.

Approaches w/a document - WEATHER RECORDS FOR HILLSVILLE AREA 11/2/2006.

Weather up 'til 23:40 on the 2nd. just before the pics they looked at. TEMP OUTSIDE WAS THIRTY FOUR DEGREES FARENHEIT! that's 24° w/wind @ 21mph. Gusts up to 30 mph. BRRRRRRRRR get cold typing that! and the scout is such a man, he had no outerwear.

Approaches w/something else... a photo, to be sure. PHOTO THAT SHOWS FRONT OF BLDG & W. SIDE - like NW view?

Consistent w/... another exhibit? YES. holds up diagram of HI & rooms, etc. Showing direction of wind to where slayer was - something about 300° - wind would be @ your back. Show & tell time.

Smash Badger
02-22-2012, 12:34 PM
http://bestsmileys.com/coffee/1.gif

Here ya go smashie, don't want you nodding off.

dank you :)

Flipper
02-22-2012, 12:35 PM
So how did that help, sounds like it was windy to me, just like JY said.

Yeah. This wind stuff, totally dumb. Stick to the good stuff. Besides, around a building, wind does all sorts of weird things. Proved nothing with that. :confused:

Sun.
02-22-2012, 12:37 PM
Very windy..... and very cold to be standing outside without a coat/jacket on. Was this info brought out in the first trial? Though, winds around large buildings tend to swirl around a bit differently, so it is not really easy to know from this, the conditions.

hmmmm.... I wonder how that wind might have affected gas mileage?

Simba
02-22-2012, 12:39 PM
Damn, I stay at HI and they've never had a breakfast bag ready and waiting for me :funslap: They do have a good continental breakfast but I always had to pick out what I wanted myself :)

am glory
02-22-2012, 12:41 PM
Breakfast bags are at the front desk for guests who don't have time to stay for breakfast. Usually a muffin, water, apple and a cereal bar. (I worked for HI for a number of years)

Scampi
02-22-2012, 12:42 PM
I'm trying to be patient, but man this is excrutiatingly tedious testimony.

Lyndyloo
02-22-2012, 12:43 PM
Was that shirt suppose to be their "Blow Poke" evidence to show "There's the imfamous shirt that is suppose tobe missing???

Just like that trial..It has been proven NOT True!!!!!!

am glory
02-22-2012, 12:43 PM
I'm trying to be patient, but man this is excrutiatingly tedious testimony.

It really is and so far I haven't heard any ahah! moments.

Flipper
02-22-2012, 12:44 PM
GET to the POINT, HC! MUST you be so suh-looooooo-oooowww :doh:

enigma™
02-22-2012, 12:44 PM
If you went out either door, wind in your face? YES - 27mph & 37°? YES SIR.

Page 79 - line 21 - Breakfast? Continental provided by HI. In the lobby.

HC - you had access thru video provided by Ms. Marshall. & all the frames & cameras? YES. Able to view frames from cam @ the reception area for early morning (from 6:30 am on or so?) YES SIR.

Page 78 - time slayer got up? yes... whatever time that was -viewed footage from that time forward is what Spivey did !

Could you see what was going on @ counter area? Breakfast bags set there - could see activity in background.

Reviewing that camera - see people getting a bag? YES... every 14 seconds or so.
Observe defendant near breakfast bags? NO SIR

Rest of breakfast area? review those frames from vid provided? All of them? YES SIR
Defendant in that area during that time of morning on 11/3/2006? NO - not enough detail or depth from that camera. Close to reception desk, easy to ID.

Basically the slayer was never seen in that area on the morning of the 3rd.

During the defendant's testimony, Page 103 especially... line 1 - question there? YES. read me a bedtime story...

Picture of Cassidy's 3rd b/day 3/29/2007.

Line 11 - you in pic? YES SIR I AM... taken after Michelle's death? YES ... describe shirt - pullover w/a stripe across the shirt.

HERE WE GO - the :drumroll: moment... I think, heh.

Opportunity to see that exhibit during the trial? YES - since have viewed a copy of it, too.

Approach... ID this photo - portion of the picture

Once you got this picture - make an investigation or comparison w/other exhibit? YES looked @ the 2 photos side by side.

SEVERAL DIFFERENCES IN THE 2 GARMENTS WERE NOTED! THERE IT IS FOLKS...

Stands down in front of jury - of course I can't hear... heard COLLAR... that counts, right?

UGH! WTF?

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 12:45 PM
Was that shirt suppose to be their "Blow Poke" evidence to show "There's the imfamous shirt that is suppose tobe missing???

Just like that trial..It has been proven NOT True!!!!!!
Yes...and Spivey is pointing out the diff in the 2 shirts

jammies
02-22-2012, 12:45 PM
Can't make out what they are saying??

jammies
02-22-2012, 12:46 PM
I'm trying to be patient, but man this is excrutiatingly tedious testimony.

Um, Um, Um......TAKE A PUBLIC SPEAKING COURSE FGS!

Sea Saw
02-22-2012, 12:46 PM
Showing to the jury that the shirt in the bday pic is not the shirt that was never seen again... YAY! SPELL IT OUT!

Palomine
02-22-2012, 12:47 PM
remember Jason's Mom was beaming when they showed that birthday party shirt photo

enigma™
02-22-2012, 12:47 PM
OK - doing for other end of jury - a little better. Pointing out the zipper area, the collar, color & stripe in center - or black & White photo w/shades of gray. contrasting the tone w/the dark bags - whatever! not a happy camper here. but he pointed out diff's - guess that's all that really matters since it's really not about me after all, demmit!

R P D
02-22-2012, 12:47 PM
http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/specialreports/michelleyoung/2011/06/21/9760489/188437-young06-600x450.jpg

http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/specialreports/michelleyoung/2011/06/14/9726962/187259-Image41-640x480.jpg

Scampi
02-22-2012, 12:47 PM
Okay good, apparently Spivey pointed out that the two tops are not the same.

Lyndyloo
02-22-2012, 12:47 PM
Yes...and Spivey is pointing out the diff in the 2 shirts

I find it very telling that jason felt compelled to buy clothing items that are missing..BUT the Shoes is the kicker...:laugh:

He just couldnt find exact copies (out of production :doh:)..ohhh well..close is good enough to fool most people so he thought..:doh:

Flipper
02-22-2012, 12:48 PM
Bet the DT is feeling weird right about now, given the jury just saw the direct of Jason where the DT tried to act as if it was the same shirt.
:laugh: Embarrassing!

Now the jury knows what the DT tried to pull in the first trial... :dance:

lingling100
02-22-2012, 12:48 PM
I think it is obvious that he tried to buy the exact shoes/shirt that went missing after the murder, but couldn't quite pull it off. I think this is major goof on his part that just might hang the bastard.


Note to Lindy Lou. Great minds must think a like as a I posted nearly the same thought. I'm a Linda Lou :)

Simba
02-22-2012, 12:49 PM
Shirt testimony was so hard to hear, this is what I picked up don't know if it's accurate

different collars

something about a zipper area in the HI photo

black top white or off white stripe in center
black trimming not the same

So close but NO CIGAR :funslap:

Palomine
02-22-2012, 12:50 PM
now I am thinking that Jason may skip!

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 12:50 PM
http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/specialreports/michelleyoung/2011/06/21/9760489/188437-young06-600x450.jpg

http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/specialreports/michelleyoung/2011/06/14/9726962/187259-Image41-640x480.jpg
Yes! He pointed out the tray...you can see it was black or very dark. The shirt at the HI is not!

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 12:50 PM
Showing to the jury that the shirt in the bday pic is not the shirt that was never seen again... YAY! SPELL IT OUT!

Forgive my ignorance, but why is this significant? ( I know it is, I just am not sure why...what are they proving here? )

Simba
02-22-2012, 12:50 PM
Breakfast bags are at the front desk for guests who don't have time to stay for breakfast. Usually a muffin, water, apple and a cereal bar. (I worked for HI for a number of years)

I like HI, maybe I never noticed the bags if they were up at the front desk just went straight to the food that was laid out :)

Sun.
02-22-2012, 12:50 PM
I'm trying to be patient, but man this is excrutiatingly tedious testimony.

"giving Scampi back her Lazy Girl Recliner" and thanking her for the loan of it. :)

So wish that I could see more of those exhibits, and hear the testimony a bit better, when the witness has stepped down from the box though.

Flipper
02-22-2012, 12:50 PM
Shirt testimony was so hard to hear, this is what I picked up don't know if it's accurate

different collars

something about a zipper area in the HI photo

black top white or off white stripe in center
black trimming not the same

So close but NO CIGAR :funslap:

:rofl:

C__E
02-22-2012, 12:50 PM
Was that shirt suppose to be their "Blow Poke" evidence to show "There's the imfamous shirt that is suppose tobe missing???

Just like that trial..It has been proven NOT True!!!!!!

There is a similarity between the missing blowpoke and the missing shirt..

they were both covered in the blood from their victims.

:(

Sea Saw
02-22-2012, 12:52 PM
Shirt testimony was so hard to hear, this is what I picked up don't know if it's accurate

different collars

something about a zipper area in the HI photo

black top white or off white stripe in center
black trimming not the same

So close but NO CIGAR :funslap:

BBM :D

Bourbon
02-22-2012, 12:53 PM
Shirt testimony was so hard to hear, this is what I picked up don't know if it's accurate

different collars

something about a zipper area in the HI photo

black top white or off white stripe in center
black trimming not the same

So close but NO CIGAR :funslap:

I was lost till you splained it. :wub:

Now it seems they are going to checking accts of Jason and Mommy.

enigma™
02-22-2012, 12:54 PM
On to page 139 - Q on line 21 - Holt - re: signing over custody of Cassidy. (general gist)..

HC - aware that from time they got letter until final papers signed several months right? YES SIR... occurred late fall 2008 - 2009? YES
approaches...
Aware that GRRR - ID - think it's financial records - equity line? or am I hearing things?

11 - 12/2008 - see any advances in those time frames? YES - whose account? JASON/MICHELLE YOUNG - AFTER HER DEATH..

2 advances, $6K each. happened when visitation discussion going on. FIRST WAS PAID TO HEATHER MCCRACKEN. Other to his mother? YES SIR. Bottom line - AVAILABILITY OF @ LEAST $12K - :liar: :liar: pants on fire! :mob:

Charles Schwab acct in the name of the slayer. Seems to be an IRA account.

value of acct in 2008/'09 - appears to be around $20K... hoo dawgie!

Simba
02-22-2012, 12:54 PM
$6,000 to Heather in 2008 :eek:

Ha!Ha! going over the money that he said he didn't have to fight for his daughter!

Lyndyloo
02-22-2012, 12:55 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but why is this significant? ( I know it is, I just am not sure why...what are they proving here? )

Def. tried to infer that this sweater is one in the same sweater/shirt that he was wearing at the hotel..NOT so just another misguiding, lie to the former jurors to make it look like he never left HI and This top is not missing...

Tho Cummings is so slow..He is going thru all the lies, and inconsistencies in Jason's testimony..including clothing, where and what he did, communications with everyone but his wife..:dnaughty:

Gurlmom
02-22-2012, 12:55 PM
Can anyone tell me when the house on Birchleaf was sold? Before 2008 or after? tia

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 12:55 PM
I was lost till you splained it. :wub:

Now it seems they are going to checking accts of Jason and Mommy.
yes...showing he did have money for the custody fight....until he gave a bunch of it to his sister and mother

Palomine
02-22-2012, 12:56 PM
could the camera pan to Pat Young please?

enigma™
02-22-2012, 12:57 PM
And yet another account in his name... monthly statement from 11/22/2006 - 12/17/2008. Beginning balance ZERO NOTHING NIL NADA BIG FAT GOOSE EGG.

Transfers in of $32K+...
end balance in excess of $24K - didn't get it but think this is the home sale? HC needs to turn around & talk to MEEEEE!

Bottom line - he had $$ to fight for Cassidy - he CHOSE NOT TO DO SO... SWINE!

Simba
02-22-2012, 12:57 PM
November through December of 2008 he had roughly $60,000 available to him.

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 12:57 PM
He had $60,000 in his account Dec 2008

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 12:57 PM
Def. tried to infer that this sweater is one in the same sweater/shirt that he was wearing at the hotel..NOT so just another misguiding, lie to the former jurors to make it look like he never left HI and This top is not missing...

Tho Cummings is so slow..He is going thru all the lies, and inconsistencies in Jason's testimony..including clothing, where and what he did, communications with everyone but his wife..:dnaughty:

Thankies, Lindy. :wub: I missed those details along the way.

Sea Saw
02-22-2012, 12:58 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but why is this significant? ( I know it is, I just am not sure why...what are they proving here? )

Last time the DT IMPLIED the shirt was the same missing shirt. PT didn't ask enough about it and left it to the jury to figure it out. This time the PT is spelling it out for the jury. :)

Flipper
02-22-2012, 12:58 PM
yes...showing he did have money for the custody fight....until he gave a bunch of it to his sister and mother

Love how they're picking away each PIECE of his pos testimony. :dnaughty:

Lyndyloo
02-22-2012, 12:58 PM
Its a smart move to have joint acount with his mommy..so IF they wanted to freeze it..they couldnt because Momm'a name was on it too!!

Smart move..but very telling on why he did that!!:doh:

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 12:58 PM
could the camera pan to Pat Young please?


Why to see if she's still wearing the thimble from sewing that light line across that black shirt?

IMO,
Lilismom

Palomine
02-22-2012, 12:59 PM
must have been going to start hiding money in the event of separation

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 12:59 PM
He is such a lying sack of sh!t

DeeJay
02-22-2012, 12:59 PM
Okay good, apparently Spivey pointed out that the two tops are not the same.

Exactly. And somewhere along the line, he bought one
"similar" to the missing one.

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 12:59 PM
Love how they're picking away each PIECE of his pos testimony. :dnaughty:
Me too!!! :dance:

jammies
02-22-2012, 12:59 PM
Why to see if she's still wearing the thimble from sewing that light line across that black shirt?

IMO,
Lilismom



:D

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 01:00 PM
Last time the DT IMPLIED the shirt was the same missing shirt. PT didn't ask enough about it and left it to the jury to figure it out. This time the PT is spelling it out for the jury. :)

AWESOME! Thank you! :wub:

KatieLady
02-22-2012, 01:01 PM
They are listening to us! :wub:

R P D
02-22-2012, 01:01 PM
Why to see if she's still wearing the thimble from sewing that light line across that black shirt?

IMO,
Lilismom

:rofl:

Palomine
02-22-2012, 01:01 PM
you don't remember the last things you said to your wife!

enigma™
02-22-2012, 01:01 PM
$60K, or close to it, all told.

John Hancock check for $17K made out to T Rowe PRice in trust for the slayer

HC - the defendant page 112... uhm... line 5 - How's life been impacted by death of wife. LOST EVERYTHING.. fam, friends, jobs...

ANY words left out like LOST MY WIFE TOO? - THIS IS A TRUE TRANSCRIPT!

BINGO!

Memory of last time you met Michelle? basically he doesn't remember. SKANK! male variety, of course.

Simba
02-22-2012, 01:02 PM
http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/specialreports/michelleyoung/2011/06/21/9760489/188437-young06-600x450.jpg

http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/specialreports/michelleyoung/2011/06/14/9726962/187259-Image41-640x480.jpg

Holy Mackerel! I knew the shirts were different but I never really looked at the collar! I'm glad they did this comparison side by side!

And thanks RPD for posting them!

Scampi
02-22-2012, 01:03 PM
Why to see if she's still wearing the thimble from sewing that light line across that black shirt?

IMO,
Lilismom

Bada bing, bada BOOM!!!!


:funslap:

enigma™
02-22-2012, 01:04 PM
talking more phone stuff. times corresponding to the last times he spoke to Michelle.

Calls after that to MM? YES SIR... rattling off times & duration of calls/texts. LOTS OF THEM, in case you're wondering.

Good time for a break - keep an open mind - IF YOU HAVE ANY MIND LEFT! :funslap:

Back @ 2:30.

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 01:05 PM
talking more phone stuff. times corresponding to the last times he spoke to Michelle.

Calls after that to MM? YES SIR... rattling off times & duration of calls/texts. LOTS OF THEM, in case you're wondering.

Good time for a break - keep an open mind - IF YOU HAVE ANY MIND LEFT! :funslap:

Back @ 2:30.


Red bulls all around! Jeez!

IMO,
Lilismom

Simba
02-22-2012, 01:05 PM
I find it very telling that jason felt compelled to buy clothing items that are missing..BUT the Shoes is the kicker...:laugh:

He just couldnt find exact copies (out of production :doh:)..ohhh well..close is good enough to fool most people so he thought..:doh:

I think he did better with the shoes than the shirt, he must have forgotten it had a collar :funslap: Talk about totally DIFFERENT. Mommy probably didn't realize that just knew he needed a shirt with a stripe going through it.

Sea Saw
02-22-2012, 01:06 PM
I'm a little giddy right now! So glad they pointed out that was NOT the missing shirt. :dance:

Thrace
02-22-2012, 01:07 PM
RPD if you have it would you post the montana pic of Pat & JY in the snowsuits. Some on here havent seen it.

Tadpole
02-22-2012, 01:07 PM
how are they hungry for lunch when I just ate jason's freedom for breakfast?

jusdafacts
02-22-2012, 01:08 PM
talking more phone stuff. times corresponding to the last times he spoke to Michelle.

Calls after that to MM? YES SIR... rattling off times & duration of calls/texts. LOTS OF THEM, in case you're wondering.

Good time for a break - keep an open mind - IF YOU HAVE ANY MIND LEFT! :funslap:

Back @ 2:30.

Just want to take this time to say THANK YOU to our trademarked little alien for once again keeping an excellent running commentary for us all!! :wub::wub:

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 01:08 PM
how are they hungry for lunch when I just ate jason's freedom for breakfast?

With a nice chianti?

IMO,
Lilismom

Simba
02-22-2012, 01:09 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but why is this significant? ( I know it is, I just am not sure why...what are they proving here? )

I could be wrong but I think they were trying to claim that he didn't get rid of that shirt by producing a picture of him wearing, what we all can now see, is NOT the same shirt, but they were trying to pass it off as it being the HI shirt.

DeeJay
02-22-2012, 01:09 PM
He said he lost everything after Michelle's death,
family, friends.

Well, that is not true!! :doh:

His fam & friends have supported
him every step of the way.

They have testified for
him. They still suppport him.

R P D
02-22-2012, 01:11 PM
RPD if you have it would you post the montana pic of Pat & JY in the snowsuits. Some on here havent seen it.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/alive695/100_0462.jpg

jammies
02-22-2012, 01:11 PM
how are they hungry for lunch when I just ate jason's freedom for breakfast?


Now they can go EAT HIS LUNCH.


:dance:

gorealtors
02-22-2012, 01:12 PM
RPD if you have it would you post the montana pic of Pat & JY in the snowsuits. Some on here havent seen it.

Now you are in for a treat. That picture is a sight for sore eyes!LOL

Sun.
02-22-2012, 01:12 PM
you don't remember the last things you said to your wife!

I suspect that he often "tuned her out" so I'm not surprised that he can't remember. Though, I am a little surprised that he would admit it.

The prosecution certainly has proved their point, that Jason Young cheated on his wife, and with multiple women.

Sea Saw
02-22-2012, 01:13 PM
I could be wrong but I think they were trying to claim that he didn't get rid of that shirt by producing a picture of him wearing, what we all can now see, is NOT the same shirt, but they were trying to pass it off as it being the HI shirt.

Yep, DT asked very specific questions about THE shoes and THE jeans, but when it came to the shirt they only presented the pic with the look-alike shirt. First jury asked for the bday pic in deliberations, iirc.

Flipper
02-22-2012, 01:14 PM
He said he lost everything after Michelle's death,
family, friends.

Well, that is not true!! :doh:

His fam & friends have supported
him every step of the way.

They have testified for
him. They still suppport him.

... and jobs. But not once did he mention losing Michelle, PT & Spivey pointed out. It's all about him. :( Sick eff. sorry. :oops:

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 01:14 PM
I suspect that he often "tuned her out" so I'm not surprised that he can't remember. Though, I am a little surprised that he would admit it.

The prosecution certainly has proved their point, that Jason Young cheated on his wife, and with multiple women.

And is he gonna admit to anything nasty he may have said to her on the phone at this point? No frikkin way. At least he wasn't pulling a Peterson "hey beautiful....". Barf.

IMO,
Lilismom

Simba
02-22-2012, 01:15 PM
I'm a little giddy right now! So glad they pointed out that was NOT the missing shirt. :dance:

And IMO once you can really prove one lie, you start to think, okay so what else is he lying about and right now they are proving more than just one lie.

DeeJay
02-22-2012, 01:15 PM
I suspect that he often "tuned her out" so I'm not surprised that he can't remember. Though, I am a little surprised that he would admit it.

The prosecution certainly has proved their point, that Jason Young cheated on his wife, and with multiple women.

Apparently, it hasn't phased his mother in the least.

Simba
02-22-2012, 01:16 PM
Just want to take this time to say THANK YOU to our trademarked little alien for once again keeping an excellent running commentary for us all!! :wub::wub:

I secondly that! And I have to leave so I'm counting on you or little alien friend for those wonderful recaps you keep doing so I can read them when I get back :wub:

Flipper
02-22-2012, 01:17 PM
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/alive695/100_0462.jpg

:omg: :eek:

Scampi
02-22-2012, 01:18 PM
Just want to take this time to say THANK YOU to our trademarked little alien for once again keeping an excellent running commentary for us all!! :wub::wub:

I'll second that, Eni is the best we are fortunate to have her.



:wub:

Simba
02-22-2012, 01:19 PM
OMG that snowsuit picture is UNBELIEVABLE! I bet JY and Michelle didn't have snow suits to match!

(I didn't repost the pictures because it seems like that slows things up quite a bit)

DeeJay
02-22-2012, 01:20 PM
... and jobs. But not once did he mention losing Michelle, PT & Spivey pointed out. It's all about him. :( Sick eff. sorry. :oops:

Jobs he has not been able to keep....Do you suppose
employers think he's guilty and don't want him around?

Plus, his lousy personality? Always using gutter talk & sex talk?

There must be good reason businesses don't want him for
very long.

jammies
02-22-2012, 01:20 PM
:omg: :eek:




I've always thought this pic just says it ALL about JY and his Mommie. :oops:

Sea Saw
02-22-2012, 01:20 PM
And IMO once you can really prove one lie, you start to think, okay so what else is he lying about and right now they are proving more than just one lie.

Exactly! I'll admit I was getting worried during the wind/temp. info, but the two shirts side by side for the jury was SO needed, imo.

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 01:21 PM
how are they hungry for lunch when I just ate jason's freedom for breakfast?

and boy, does it taste GREEAATT!:D

Tadpole
02-22-2012, 01:21 PM
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/alive695/100_0462.jpg

I love this movie! Its the scene right before the Oompa Loompas take her to the juicer!

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 01:22 PM
I could be wrong but I think they were trying to claim that he didn't get rid of that shirt by producing a picture of him wearing, what we all can now see, is NOT the same shirt, but they were trying to pass it off as it being the HI shirt.

:wub: Thankies!

imawitch
02-22-2012, 01:22 PM
lol:laugh:

DeeJay
02-22-2012, 01:22 PM
I've always thought this pic just says it ALL about JY and his Mommie. :oops:

He said, he and his mother are very close, always have been.

I figured that out a very long time ago.

Flipper
02-22-2012, 01:23 PM
I agree! Thank you, Enigma! :wub:
The alien prolly needs to eat just like us! And rest her fingers. :D

LadyBlue
02-22-2012, 01:23 PM
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/alive695/100_0462.jpg

Those aren't cheap! They probably cost more than a custody battle would :funslap:

The mommy/son act is really, really, REALLY strange!

aggie c
02-22-2012, 01:28 PM
In the beginning of his testimony, when he spoke of MY's pregnancy and telling his mother, he started to say MY didn't realize how close he and his mother were......but he caught himself.

jilly
02-22-2012, 01:30 PM
now I am thinking that Jason may skip!

Well I would guess it's definitely crossed his mind!lol

Smash Badger
02-22-2012, 01:31 PM
you don't remember the last things you said to your wife!

Well, he can't come right out and say: die you effing bitch!.

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 01:33 PM
Well I would guess it's definitely crossed his mind!lol


Any chance he will take the stand this time?

Any chance a plea has crossed anyone's mind yet?

IMO,
Lilismom

Lilismom
02-22-2012, 01:34 PM
Well, he can't come right out and say: die you effing bitch!.

It was probably "look what you made me do". Pure evil.

IMO,
Lilismom